New Roadmap of S3 Graphics

Stefan said:
Af is not broken. How did you come to this conclusion?

http://www.3dcenter.de/artikel/deltachrome_volari/index4.php

8x AF:
DC_8xAf_tn.jpg


Also have look here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/s3-deltachrome_13.html
and esspecially here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/s3-deltachrome_16.html

It shimmers accroding to some user expericenes. I don't know if this is still the case or if they have fixed it with a newer driver.
 
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tEd said:
It shimmers accroding to some user expericenes. I don't know if this is still the case or if they have fixed it with a newer driver.

Correct.
It's shimmering like hell, even the Geforce 7800 could be considered as shimmering-free compared to S3's AF implementation.
I'm also not sure about current driver releases, i've seen it a couple of month ago at a friend of mine but he sold the card shortly afterwards (due to crappy drivers, the biggest problem S3 have IMO).
 
Robbitop said:
If you've read my article, you'd know that fast tri fetches 16 texels.
Multisampling will be implemented in destinantion films. Chrome S2x is just a 2 Quad Gamma Chrome. Its further name was S19. Just another lable for the same chip.
The increase of arithmetical efficiency was not to bad from delta chrome to gamma chrome (got an article about that in my pipe). But per clock and pipe its way behind ATI's R3xx efficiency.

You know very well that I've read that article of yours even before it went on air LOL. The reason why I'm asking is because I'm also very well aware of the side-effects that some users report (see former posts above), but sadly never had the chance to throw a DC through it's hurdles. I don't believe in coincidences and when I hear about "correct tri and AF" I wouldn't expect any side-effects to be visible.
 
@tEd & nobody
I can't see any shimering on my DeltaChrome S8 and I have AF activated (nearly) always. Can you give me an example where this should be visible? Perhaps there was a bug in some early drivers... *shrug*

@Robbi
Have you noticed such a behaviour of DC anywhere?

@Ail
With some luck, I will get several AGP cards from S3 in the next days. Perhaps I could send you one for testing if you want to
 
Chrome S2X Engineering Samples & new informations
Written by Stefan
Thursday, 08 September 2005
Charlie Demerjian from The Inquirer today wrote, that engineering samples of the upcoming Chrome S2X graphic chip were shown to him at the headquarter of S3 Graphics in the timeframe of the Intel Developer Forum (IDF). He was also allowed to test the chips by himself.

Because the IDF took place at the end of August, you can take the information from this, that S3 has fullfilled his own plans to have engineering samples since July. So they seem to fullfill their new roadmap (we reported). Charlie Demerjian in ske way confirms this, because he promises the availability before Christmas.

Another interesting point is that S3 Graphics states that Chrome S2X will be the highest clocked graphic chip in the market at the time when it becomes available. Therefore you can assume at least 700 MHz - probably even more.

At HEXUS.net there is also an interessting article about Chrome S2X, but no further news except that S3 Graphics has invested in some new hig-end emulators - which of course is very important for the development of Destination Films.
Furthermore there is an interview with Ken Wang, the General Manager of S3 Graphics. He gives some informations about the future plans ad od the current developements. He also indirectly announces that S3 Graphics will attack the hig-end market in the future

At Zol.com.cn there is a news report about Multi-G and they also mention that Chrome S2X will be manufactured in a 90 nm process at Fujitsu. This is surprising because S3 Graphics has used TSMC so far and the two market leaders ATi und nVidia are also using TSMC. But Fujitsu produces the Efficeon CPUs of Transmeta for quite a long time now and it is possible that the process of Fujitsu is better but that they just can't produce enough chips for ATi and nVidia .

This are all very good indicators that this time S3 Graphics can keep its own schedule and reach the targets.

Sources:
The Inquirer: S3 aims at the mid-range
Hexus.net: S3 Graphics Announces Chrome20 Series
Hexus.net: Interview with Ken Weng, S3 Graphics General Manager
Zol.com.cn: "S3 Chrome20 series support similar SLi technology?" (chinese)

http://www.chrome-center.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=82&Itemid=60

http://www.chrome-center.com
 
I hope S3 will make a comeback. More 3D chip vendors mean lower prices for us.
I was also kinda impressed with their Savage3D back in those days. Especially S3TC support (UT99 mmmmm :) )
 
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