What model firearm is this?
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It looks quite a bit like a gun that never got past prototype stage, that had a superfast 3-round burst mode. It loaded caseless ammo vertically from a horizontal clip along the top of the gun like you see in that image into a rotating chamber that turned 90 degrees into firing position. Very odd design, but apparantly something that worked anyway.
It fired the three rounds so fast that your aim didn't have time to move due to recoil until after the bullets had already left the muzzle of the gun.
Very interesting tech, if you consider murdering people interesting of course... Probably a pretty fragile system though with the complicated mechanics and superfast firing rate n stuff.
It fired the three rounds so fast that your aim didn't have time to move due to recoil until after the bullets had already left the muzzle of the gun.
Very interesting tech, if you consider murdering people interesting of course... Probably a pretty fragile system though with the complicated mechanics and superfast firing rate n stuff.Here is a page about the FN P90 pictured: http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg13-e.htm
And here is another link to the same site with what I believe is the gun seen in the Ghost Recon 3 demos: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm
And here is another link to the same site with what I believe is the gun seen in the Ghost Recon 3 demos: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm
Guden Oden said:It looks quite a bit like a gun that never got past prototype stage, that had a superfast 3-round burst mode. It loaded caseless ammo vertically from a horizontal clip along the top of the gun like you see in that image into a rotating chamber that turned 90 degrees into firing position. Very odd design, but apparantly something that worked anyway.
It fired the three rounds so fast that your aim didn't have time to move due to recoil until after the bullets had already left the muzzle of the gun.
That was the H&K G11. As I understood it the mechanics weren't all that complicated really, but the problem was the chamber got really hot which made the ammo cook off. As it was caseless ammo the propellant was obviously in direct contact with the hot metal chamber -> not good!
The hot casings normally ejected actually acts as discardable heatsinks to the weapon...nope.MPI said:That was the H&K G11. As I understood it the mechanics weren't all that complicated really, but the problem was the chamber got really hot which made the ammo cook off. As it was caseless ammo the propellant was obviously in direct contact with the hot metal chamber -> not good!
they fixed that, last i read, by simply using a higher-temp igniting compressed powder casing.
http://remtek.com/arms/hk/mil/g11/g11.htm
http://www.hkpro.com/g11.htm
A couple of decent links on the weapon.
a quote from one of them:
of course, who can say if it actually worked, as the project is dead...
I wonder, how does one unchamber a caseless round since there is no ejection port for spent cartridges? This issue might be moot however since I don't know if any production firearms really use caseless ammo tho...
Unknown Soldier
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FN90.
You don't get an MP90 .. I think he's getting confused with an MP3(too much/too little CS I guess).
They use the FN90 to deadly effect in the StarGate series too.
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You don't get an MP90
.. I think he's getting confused with an MP3(too much/too little CS I guess).They use the FN90 to deadly effect in the StarGate series too.
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Anyway, I'm gonna build a gun collection starting with one of these next year. Getting the civilian model which is pictured below.
I've shot a handful of guns from .22s to 9mm pistol grip semiautomatic rifles to .45s pistols at the range with my sister and brother-in-law (they own a gun store), but have not owned any firearm to date. This will be my first SMG and will be followed shortly by a Kahr P9.
I've shot a handful of guns from .22s to 9mm pistol grip semiautomatic rifles to .45s pistols at the range with my sister and brother-in-law (they own a gun store), but have not owned any firearm to date. This will be my first SMG and will be followed shortly by a Kahr P9.
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haha . .ye I f00ked up .. MP5
Show's how long ago I played CS .. since my Steam went b0rked on me.
Show's how long ago I played CS .. since my Steam went b0rked on me.
Unknown Soldier
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My best CS gun was the Colt with scope used in CS-beta 5
Man .. I loved that rifle.
FN90 in Beta 3 was awesome .. it changed somewhat in beta4 and never seemed the same again.
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Man .. I loved that rifle.
FN90 in Beta 3 was awesome .. it changed somewhat in beta4 and never seemed the same again.
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wireframe said:
Yup.
FN P90.
It's not from goldeneye
and it's not a protype gun that never hit the market (it's real, and a good gun to)
obviously its in quite a few games etc becuase its a popular gun (CS etc)
and like soldier said it's used in the stargate series.
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Dang .. haven't seen that SMG before. Seems like fun at 1200rpm.
I haven't shot an MP5 either. What's it like?
I haven't shot an MP5 either. What's it like?
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PC-Engine said:
Is it true that if you drop this weapon with a half empty magazine (or even a partially empty magazine not in the gun), the ammo gets all shaken up and jams the weapon?
