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AMD: Zen 4, Speculation, Rumours and Discussion
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Ryzen 7000 Rumored to run very Hot
Good proper cooling for the most high-end processors might be mandatory is the data below is correct. ...
www.guru3d.com
If you need to buy a full system, inc motherboard and ram etc. then I'd wait. I just upgraded by X370 board with a 5700X CPU for a rather massive upgrade.
I know this is a bit tangentially off-topic, but do any of the AMD motherboards have MultiGig Ethernet, like provide anything higher than single Gigabit such as 2.5 GB / 5 GB / 10 GB via GBase-T RJ45 ports?
Most mid-high tier motherboards nowaways have 2.5Gb ethernet. Anything higher is usually server-level stuff.
Thanks.
I'm not at the point to be ready to upgrade, but once Zen4 platform is out and about it looks like a good time to.
In a surprise move, they're currently building out FIBER to my neighborhood. It looks like for around the price I'm currently paying for 940/35 mbit/s DOCSIS I could get 5 Gb symetrical offering from the new provider. Or I can get 2 Gb for less than half of what I currently pay. I started the upgrade process for my old servers to 10 Gb through PCI-Express NICs and waiting on the MultiGig Switch. It would have been nice to not need it for a new desktop system, but not a deal breaker in the least. It's nice to see 2.5 Gb is pretty much standard all around now.
I'm not at the point to be ready to upgrade, but once Zen4 platform is out and about it looks like a good time to.
In a surprise move, they're currently building out FIBER to my neighborhood. It looks like for around the price I'm currently paying for 940/35 mbit/s DOCSIS I could get 5 Gb symetrical offering from the new provider. Or I can get 2 Gb for less than half of what I currently pay. I started the upgrade process for my old servers to 10 Gb through PCI-Express NICs and waiting on the MultiGig Switch. It would have been nice to not need it for a new desktop system, but not a deal breaker in the least. It's nice to see 2.5 Gb is pretty much standard all around now.
I think I've seen 20th as a date. For sure before CPU's go on sale.
You've seen wrong date. Reviews 26th, sales 27th
itsmydamnation
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lisa said they would be this year
Lisa said that AMD would "feature them later this year". That's not the same as "release them this year".
They might becoming from even older setups. I know I'm coming from ancient cpu+mb+ram setup from the days of an 1070 GPU. The GPU prices being insane made me not to even bother with PC gaming anymore and then pandemic prices addon on too. Having a new mb+ram setup is a good starting point for a new base. I can always swap in the X3D cpu later.
Have about decided to just go with a 5800x or 5900x... don't really want to pay the DDR5 tax and the 7700x is 60% more $$$/core for ~30% more perf/core. I haven't done much modern gaming lately, so my question now is how many games max out 8 cores? I'd like to be able to do some modern gaming and still be able to alt-tab with other things running in the background and not have any issues.
EDIT: Went with the 5800x.
EDIT: Went with the 5800x.
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DDR5 prices could plummet as cutting-edge RAM finds its ‘sweet spot’
New report claims DDR5 pricing will drop sharply and hit its sweet spot in 2023
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hoom
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Maybe not a properly successful speed demon then.Ryzen 7000 Rumored to run very Hot
Good proper cooling for the most high-end processors might be mandatory is the data below is correct. ...
The source for that does say its an Engineering Sample so production models may be better/could be features disabled on this.
May be a good representation of production though
Could be overaggressive vcore on betabioses (or even retail bios)Maybe not a properly successful speed demon then.
The source for that does say its an Engineering Sample so production models may be better/could be features disabled on this.
May be a good representation of production though
AMD Ryzen 7000 Undervolting Yields Great Results with Temperatures
AMD Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors can hit up to 95 °C at stock settings, with cooling most appropriate to the TDP level. This is because the PPT (package power tracking) limits for the 170 W TDP processors is as high as 230 W, and for the 105 W TDP models, it's 130 W. After reaching this...
I'd be wary of that because of how well AMD does clock stretching. If you set your vcore too low on 5000-series, it won't necessarily mean crashes, the CPU will just clock stretch to essentially throttle to maintain stability. Many people undervolted their Ryzens and were amazed at how low power levels they could reach while nominally keeping clocks high, only to have the high hopes dashed when they actually benchmarked their cpus.Could be overaggressive vcore on betabioses (or even retail bios)
AMD Ryzen 7000 Undervolting Yields Great Results with Temperatures
AMD Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors can hit up to 95 °C at stock settings, with cooling most appropriate to the TDP level. This is because the PPT (package power tracking) limits for the 170 W TDP processors is as high as 230 W, and for the 105 W TDP models, it's 130 W. After reaching this...www.techpowerup.com
But still, early beta bios causes excessive power use is a very old tale.
itsmydamnation
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The clock speeds floating around the internet are insane , hopefully this all core 6.4ghz 270 watt cb23 is achievable on a good aio. No chilled water or ln2.