The first episodes of Picard season 1 and 2, and Discovery Season 1 were also pretty good. And we know what happened there. Not seen the S2 final yet but I don't have high hopes.
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The first episodes of Picard season 1 and 2, and Discovery Season 1 were also pretty good. And we know what happened there. Not seen the S2 final yet but I don't have high hopes.
Felt like filler anime episode tactics that anime studios usually use when they got not enough budget, workman, and/or time.
Seems a good start, but it's basically the most obvious episode plot to start a Star Trek series with a cast of generic obvious characters. It seems like they are trying to create the safest generic Star Trek "every wants" and making it. And as you said, it's still Goldman and Kurtzman writing and directing. And the amount of "Executive Producers" on these shows is just stupid.
Yes that's they modern show formula unless they want to be "cancelled" by social justice. Any males in the shows must also be weak fools. I guess they're able to have a strong white male in the commanding role due to being an existing historical character.
WhiningKhan
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I'm already counting seconds into Davros presenting us the poster for "Strange New <bleep>s: xxx parody".
But yeah, you can't make anything anymore without a multifaceted crew riddled with emotional baggage.
Yeah first episode and the security officer was already practically in tears spewing her entire emotional backstory exposition.
hoom
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Except the canon Pike is exactly the kind of bigoted dickbag they should be trying to make an example of.
Instead he's likeable competent & charismatic
while Number1 (who was historically setup as eminently competent & definitely going to be a female captain soon) fucked up her first mission in command so bad she self-demoted back to Number1 under the patriarchy.
Its probably a better story than any of Kurzman trek
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WhiningKhan
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Heh, not seen it but sounds about right...
Seems it was just recently when Enterprise launched with nearly all-male cast, and we were introduced to T'Pol's personality with a memorable scene of her applying lotion on her nipples. No excess crying and emo stuff from this leading lady.
Yeah that was the point I realised that Trek was dead as we had known it. That said, Enterprise turned out to be somewhat decent if you overlook the title music, the over reliance on shots of T'Pols body, and the Xindii. Nothing like the travesty that is Discovery/Picard. I quite liked the first new Trek film too but they went down hill after that.
WhiningKhan
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The outrage over the Enterprise title song was ludicrous in hindsight IMO, I would rather listen to it on endless repeat for the combined running time of STD and STP than watch those again. I actually like the song. And T'Pol. The two planks of wood named Reed & Tucker are the biggest annoyance for me in the show, and the somewhat overt silliness.
I pretty much agree to be fair. It's a decent song, and the credits themselves are pretty good. At the time it felt like they were trying to change Trek too much but in the context of the recent attempts it seems a trivial complaint. I actually quite liked Tucker, but Reed never came across as believable to me. As a UK citizen he came across as the American stereotype of a typical brit rather than a real character (see: Bashir).
Anyway, enough of this chit chat, I'm off to watch the season 2 finale of Picard..... wish me luck!
Your going to need it
You crushed it...
Your going to need it
I actually didn't hate it. It was self indulgent, had a few wtf moments (not good ones) but was better than the last handful of episodes at least. Still pretty mediocre sci-fi and totally unworthy of the Trek title, but at least it didn't make me want to rip my eyes out like the previous episode did.
John De Lance is still the saving grace of it imo. He's the only real element of TNG that's properly carried over. I noticed they've even subtly changed the starship designs, presumably to avoid copywrite issues.
That was one of the WTF moments.
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