*Sheesh*
I d love to have one but that price.....
maybe 2022 ? Would be the perfect time for a refresh of the aya also.I think it's a bit of a shame they didn't get a Ryzen 4800U in there, at least as a more expensive option. Those 6 CUs in the Ryzen 4500U are coming up a bit short.
The form factor is top notch IMO, though. I think this is exactly what I'd want as a portable gaming PC. I'd pay a lot for this thing but with a 96EU Tiger Lake.
We also need to see what the hell Van Gogh is all about. Zen2 CPU with a RDNA2 iGPU and LPDDR5 at 9-15W sounds like the ideal SoC for something of this size.
At some point I saw news that Van Gogh had been scrapped due to non-available allocation at TSMC, but the newest Linux drivers keep bringing updates for it.
I'm pretty sure Van Gogh is 2021, as 2022 already sees a follow-up of Van Gogh called Dragon Crest.maybe 2022 ? Would be the perfect time for a refresh of the aya also.
I'm pretty sure Van Gogh is 2021, as 2022 already sees a follow-up of Van Gogh called Dragon Crest.
Dragon Crest sounds like a respin of Van Gogh though, similar to Raven Ridge -> Picasso.
I really don't think these are CPU limited. They're most probably GPU-limited, especially as GPU performance on Ryzen APUs has stagnated quite a bit because they've been using the same Vega architecture for the past 4 years since Raven Ridge. They upped the clocks when transitioning to 7nm but at the same time they made the iGPUs narrower.The boost from Zen 3 would have really helped with performance .
I really don't think these are CPU limited. They're most probably GPU-limited, especially as GPU performance on Ryzen APUs has stagnated quite a bit because they've been using the same Vega architecture for the past 4 years since Raven Ridge. They upped the clocks when transitioning to 7nm but at the same time they made the iGPUs narrower.
I get that they've been mostly bandwidth limited, but Intel has largely surpassed AMD in iGPU performance with Tiger Lake. Van Gogh with a RDNA2 GPU should be the only APU that is equipped to surpass Tiger Lake but it seems Microsoft's Surface team owns it and at the moment they don't even know if they'll ever release an actual device with it.
Yes, but for example Van Gogh probably has a significantly higher gaming performance with a RDNA2 GPU but it reportedly uses Zen2 cores. And given its projected TDP there's a good chance it has a quad-core CPU to accommodate for a more powerful GPU.zen 3 designs would have given them the option of more cores at the same TDP . I think however the big bump will be when they get an apu with rdna 2 , hopefully next year
Yes, but for example Van Gogh probably has a significantly higher gaming performance with a RDNA2 GPU but it reportedly uses Zen2 cores. And given its projected TDP there's a good chance it has a quad-core CPU to accommodate for a more powerful GPU.
Yes of course, but that's probably mid-2022, it's a year away from release at best.rembrant would have even better gaming performance with its 6nm zen 3+ / rdna 2
Yes of course, but that's probably mid-2022, it's a year away from release at best.
Though if Aya Neo 2 is coming out in H2 2022, it's a good upgrade path indeed.