At maxed out settings including DXR “Psycho”. Not clear if you’re arguing for or against my point.
Nvidia giving free GPU samples to reviewers that follow procedure
At maxed out settings including DXR “Psycho”. Not clear if you’re arguing for or against my point.
But HBU did this with the 6800XT review. Here is the final verdict from the review:
Especially the point about the "mature raytracing support and DLSS 2.0" which HBU claims are "questionable features" and "not mayor selling points". Why should nVidia work with them further when this site doesnt care about nVidia specific advantages?
With WoW, Cold War and Cyberpunk three of the biggest PC games this year have Raytracing and DLSS (2 of them) support. As a reviewer you should not allow your own bias impact a comparision.
How did you concluded they do not care?
Also we shouldn't allow own bias to choose what are the biggest games.
Also we should ask when do the "biggest" games form a proper benchmark suite.
He said it loud and clear. "Go buy a 6800XT because today there arent enough games with Raytracing and especially DLSS support."
Ehm, WoW broke the first day record two weeks ago and Cyberpunk two days ago. Call of Duty is always a huge game on the PC plattform. Do we need to talk about the difference between "huge games" and "Godfall"?
Without DLSS.
There is only one reason for some to participate in a pc graphics processing unit discussion, just look. Its an eye opener.
With the way their going, they will probably get blacklisted ever so more.
Seriously, seeing what RT is doing now, and how performant it is, in special in combination with DLSS, thats an impressive feat.
Even the PS5 has gotten (subtle) RT. Here is a list of games on consoles that have it.
https://www.pocket-lint.com/games/n...ng-list-which-next-gen-games-have-ray-tracing
The pc versions of those have RT too.
No idea why some are against ray tracing, but by doing so, your going against your own platform.
Most impressive game graphics ever to date (CP2077) achieves its graphical awe by RT solutions (see LTTs review).
Properly investigating ray tracing is not an absurd proposition. It's the most transformative and performance hungry process to come to games in years, and it's massively relevant to these cards.
Oh well. Looks like they're going to have more time on their hands now.
"Privilege".
These cards will be on sale for 3 or 4 years, and these reviews will stay online indefinitely. Mostly ignoring ray tracing is insane.
The sense of entitlement from YouTubers regarding their 'lite' reviews is both funny and a little depressing.
NightAntilli
Newcomer
It all boils down to this;
Does nVidia have a right to free marketing from their reviewers that get free cards?
If your answer is no;
nVidia wanting an editorial direction change in order for Hardware Unboxed to receive these cards again in the future, does not strike you at all as nVidia extorting free marketing from their reviewers....?
If your answer is yes;
If only the ones that give positive reviews are allowed to get the products on time, you're never going to get honest reviews, and that defeats the whole purpose of reviews in the first place.
All the other arguments, whether RT is a good enough feature, whether RT is prevalent enough, whether Hardware Unboxed deserves free cards, or anything else not related to the above, are distractions to the real issue.
Does nVidia have a right to free marketing from their reviewers that get free cards?
If your answer is no;
nVidia wanting an editorial direction change in order for Hardware Unboxed to receive these cards again in the future, does not strike you at all as nVidia extorting free marketing from their reviewers....?
If your answer is yes;
If only the ones that give positive reviews are allowed to get the products on time, you're never going to get honest reviews, and that defeats the whole purpose of reviews in the first place.
All the other arguments, whether RT is a good enough feature, whether RT is prevalent enough, whether Hardware Unboxed deserves free cards, or anything else not related to the above, are distractions to the real issue.
The fact you're even suggesting that question blows my mind. Not even the Nvidia subreddit, with far less technical standards, suggests what pharma and PSman are raving about. Nvidia should definitely consider enlisting them at this point
No, nVidia wrote that HBU doesnt care about Raytracing and DLSS enough and that it doesnt make sense to supply them with FE cards anymore.
That has come after HBU made it clear that they dont care about Raytracing and DLSS. nVidia has not enforced a change prior Ampere and even sampled them with Ampere cards.
I think most views are very one dimensional. Why should it be allow that reviewers can put out biased reviews and are entitled to get free samples for a lifetime?
That has come after HBU made it clear that they dont care about Raytracing and DLSS. nVidia has not enforced a change prior Ampere and even sampled them with Ampere cards.
I think most views are very one dimensional. Why should it be allow that reviewers can put out biased reviews and are entitled to get free samples for a lifetime?
The converse is problematic, providing favourable reviews in exchange for free samples and early access. Something the vast majority of people are against. I don't understand why you'd want a review that's pre-approved by a manufacturer anyway. Is this a proper gpu forum?
NightAntilli
Newcomer
So you're saying that nVidia is allowed to dictate what reviewers say if they get free samples from them...
Companies should work on their product to get good reviews from critics. It should definitely not be the case that the critics have to adapt to appease companies. That defeats the whole purpose of reviews. If you cave in and fall in the second category, you're just a shill.
That doesnt make any sense. nVidia improved DLSS and improved their hardware for better raytracing performance. HBU claims that both things are "questionable features" and shouldnt be considered by the consumer when it comes to buying a new GPU.
What do you expect nVidia to do more? HBU has every right to ignore nVidia's advantages. But dont blame nVidia when they think it doesnt make sense to supply them anymore.
Do members over there also create alt accounts?
Nvidia quoted hardware unboxed to promote DLSS
No they spam the thread in defense of corporations and make accusations to compensate. At least I know who to avoid listening to in this forum.
Did I accuse you of being a former poster? No I didn't. I simply noted your enthusiasm.
Yes. but this was before they changed their view from "impressive" to "questionable feature".
Maybe get back on your old horse since it wont really matter now anymore.
You really are a desperate fella aren't you.
Why would their editorial view need amendment?
