Playstation 5 [PS5] [Release November 12 2020]
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Yet the talk had no mentions of any separate modes, if they actually do have separate modes that will run all PS4/Pro games as they are, Cerny did horrible job on conveying it to the audience, instead giving the impression that they're not going to even have full backwards compatibility on launch.
So PS5 supports 2 types of legacy BC. Legacy meaning it runs the same clock speeds as the legacy device. PS5 native mode is to run older BC code at PS5 speeds. This is where they tested the 100 titles and some of them had issues, but they are confident that most of them will be running for launch on PS5 Native mode.
From the presentation Boost BC mode is for PS4 pro and Legacy BC mode is for PS4. At least that's what my impression from that slide told me.
EDIT: oops, I think I had it messed up?
Based on the inferior specs and the fact that XSX is extremely tight.
It's not just about pretty graphics.
If there is nearly no loading times it will transform how we game and will open a lot of possibilities. It isn't just "this SSD is twice as fast" but an entirely new paradigm that will enable developers to make new things.
You will be able to load and unload textures on the fly with better compression and decompression technology, in game, while changing point of view.
Yeah the difference of instant loading and potentially what can be done with streaming will have a bigger impact for the usual console user than the slightly better image quality that the extra TFlops and bandwidth bring.
It does tie up with the feedback/rumours we got from some developers, who were raving about this supposed 'texel per second' (or whatever it was), meaning that textures on screen at any give time are pretty much always 'perfect'.
This SSD thing is my number 1 most exciting aspect of the PS5. The rest, whatever, it means nothing. Bandwith/TF will mean resolutions will be what they need to be.
The SSD wil make an actual, obviius difference apart from obviously faster loading.
Imagine Spiderman 2 on PS5 without the limitations that the game had to work around because of the ancient HDD.
Hell, any game with 'levels' would be revolutionised and annoying corridors (Hello, Bloodborne!).
It's the end of levels.
Who cares if Devs want levels.
Sony to ban all Levels in games. The end. Order reinstated.
Yeah, developers can go from "how much space for textures do I have for this entire scene?" to "how much space for textures do I have for the current field of view". It's a massive difference.
Yes this is what I would like to be explored. Is the series X storage speed good enough?
We know that the more powerful GPU part of series X won't have that big an impact other than image quality.
An another thing more baked destruction. I heard Sony have an internal presentation about the SSD, they have very detailed world and with the dualshock you can turn the camera maybe like a bullet time effect and the world fully destruct and after 90 degree and it moph into in a new world and continuing to move the camera it destruct too. I suppose there is 4 worlds and I was thinking we will see it yesterday but it was a very bad conference without demo.
EDIT: Not sure about the bullet time camera but he compare the demo to matrix, it is the only things I find logic but maybe it is not this.
EDIT: Not sure about the bullet time camera but he compare the demo to matrix, it is the only things I find logic but maybe it is not this.
Agreed.
Also, I seem to remember that GG were showing off their Decima Engine when they made Horizon, and they had a system where data was streamed in from the HDD based on the camera angles, so it would (try to) load more data as you turned the camera.
Wanna bet Cerny spent a lot more time with them than other devs - for obvious reasons, that engine is Sony's shining moment this gen - and asked them what they believe would make more of an impact in the next gen?
I agree. Surely they could of shown some kind of tech demo. Like the one you describe would of been fantastic to get the potential across.
Maybe - I didn't do the math.
It'd have to factor in BW difference and potential RAM contention affecting PS5 more than XBSX?AbsoluteBeginner
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I guess Oberon will dip below 10TF during regular play with variable frequency introduced, no? Because I am pretty sure they would have rather have locked 10TF across all consoles then have it variable.
Even 2-3% drop will result in chip running below 10TF, but this looks better on paper and people will not exactly notice a difference in performance if it drops few GFLOPs lower.
Even 2-3% drop will result in chip running below 10TF, but this looks better on paper and people will not exactly notice a difference in performance if it drops few GFLOPs lower.
According to Cerny it should run at max speed most of the time, but some specific loads are just so powerhungry there will be cases where it won't.
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I know, so like variable frame rate or variable resolution, it will drop in instances it cannot cope with clocks. It will not be noticeable to anyone playing, but sure does give extra bonus to put on spec sheet. I guess if they could have had 10TF all the time, that is what they would go with.
I am interested how much they pushed perf/watt with this thing.
True, but he most likely gets orders from the top (Sony). Ive said it before, Cerny is not to blame for this. MS probably had a whole team behind designing the thing im sure.
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