Baseless Next Generation Rumors with no Technical Merits [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]

[N2O]

Where's the CU count on Microsoft's announcement?


Are you serious?

Are you serious?

 

[Deleted member 13524]

Its not in announcement, but like it or not, we got number from AMDs internal testing doc. And we got it before we saw big ass die size or got confirmation of 12TF RDNA.

It's not like it or not.
It's believe it or not.

And no, I really don't. There's little reason to believe your Gospel over all the rest, at this point.

 

[Proelite]

Internal testing doc that AMD is sending out DMCA takedowns for rehosted copies is on the same level as posts from random unverified insider on Gaf.

We get it.

 

[AbsoluteBeginner]

It's not like it or not.
It's believe it or not.

And no, I really don't. There's little reason to believe your Gospel over all the rest, at this point.

Well of course. Only complete bellends would believe AMDs official internal test leak that has been purged from internet by AMDs request.

 

[Deleted member 13524]

Please go preach the Gospel crap somewhere else, and tell that to your friends at your discord channel. This thread has had enough Gospel inquisition.

There's no proof of the excel sheet showing results to anything other than a Navi 10 GPU with just enough enabled CUs to test backwards compatibility. There's nothing other than rasterization tests on a discrete DX12 GPU. No raytracing, no storage performance, no CPU performance, no VRS, nothing that a Navi 10 can't do.

 

[AbsoluteBeginner]

Please go preach the Gospel crap somewhere else, and tell that to your friends at your discord channel. This thread has had enough Gospel inquisition.

There's no proof of the excel sheet showing results to anything other than a Navi 10 GPU with just enough enabled CUs to test backwards compatibility. There's nothing other than rasterization tests on a discrete DX12 GPU. No raytracing, no storage performance, no CPU performance, no VRS, nothing that a Navi 10 can't do.

I dont have my info from Github. I am insider and can in fact confirm Github is false.

According to my friend from a studio that starts with U, who uploaded me footage of ng game over Discord, PS5 is 8TF machine.

 

[Proelite]

Please go preach the Gospel crap somewhere else, and tell that to your friends at your discord channel. This thread has had enough Gospel inquisition.

There's no proof of the excel sheet showing results to anything other than a Navi 10 GPU with just enough enabled CUs to test backwards compatibility. There's nothing other than rasterization tests on a discrete DX12 GPU. No raytracing, no storage performance, no CPU performance, no VRS, nothing that a Navi 10 can't do.

What about Renoir, m100, Xsx info from the test results? Are those outdated / misleading too? That's what you being doing by refuting 56 CUs for Xsx, with a source from a fake leaker on Gaf.

 

[disco_]

Its not in announcement, but like it or not, we got number from AMDs internal testing doc. And we got it before we saw big ass die size or got confirmation of 12TF RDNA.

So rdna2 and ~400mm2? That puts it around ~490mm2 on 7nm/P, right? What's on that die?

 

[DieH@rd]

Matt from Era: "PS5 has enhanced BC and its own version of Smart Delivery."

 

[mpg1]

Matt from Era: "PS5 has enhanced BC and its own version of Smart Delivery."

This should put pressure on publishers to not "double charge" for cross gen games...

 

[AlNom]

Sony's done supersampled BC before, haven't they? For PS2 titles.

 

[N2O]

This should put pressure on publishers to not "double charge" for cross gen games...

A new and easy way to label bad guys in next gen.

 

[Deleted member 13524]

Sony's done supersampled BC before, haven't they? For PS2 titles.

PS2 titles on the first PS3 model ran through PS2 hardware, there was no BC.
PS2 titles on PS4 run on an emulator AFAIK, but I don't know if I'd call that BC because it's not like you can insert a PS2 DVD into the PS4 and run it. You need to pay for a digital key and download a copy, so for all I know you could be downloading a different binary.

 

[Picao84]

PS2 titles on the first PS3 model ran through PS2 hardware, there was no BC.
PS2 titles on PS4 run on an emulator AFAIK, but I don't know if I'd call that BC because it's not like you can insert a PS2 DVD into the PS4 and run it. You need to pay for a digital key and download a copy, so for all I know you could be downloading a different binary.

I think he probably meant PS1 titles on PS2. There was some image sharpening done from what I remember.

 

[DieH@rd]

This should put pressure on publishers to not "double charge" for cross gen games...

I don't know what kind of pressure needs to happen for Take Two not to hold GTAV 4K60+ hostage on gen9-only SKUs.

 

[Deleted member 13524]

In the meanwhile, on the PS5:

Seems to be about the high 10 low 11 ballpark, barely anything in it when it comes down to it really, this is good stuff.

And this is what I meant about the damn SSD, but you all had this weird dream the PS5 SSD was going to cure cancer and shit (well ok, the ps3 tried that, to be fair.)

In short...

Shit just got real. Now I’m just waiting for Sony to drop their bombs. Yes it will be lower, no it won’t matter one bit. This is a bragging rights deal.

We all win.

11.6 for XseX and 12.4 for PS5 with XseX having more leeway with clock changes.

Been saying this since the beginning.

Quick recap the first report I ever got was that the psv gdk was hot and loud as shit.

Matt from Era: "PS5 has enhanced BC and its own version of Smart Delivery."

Has he ever given performance numbers for either console?

 

[disco_]

Has he ever given performance numbers for either console?

I don't believe so. Just alluded to deltas he'd consider "close".

 

[PSman1700]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/next...-analysis-leaks-thread.1480978/post-256222069

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/next...-analysis-leaks-thread.1480978/post-256304209

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/next...-analysis-leaks-thread.1480978/post-256533297

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/next...-analysis-leaks-thread.1480978/post-256533438

At this point, i feel the need to contradict his posts isnt there anymore. It cant hurt though. Almost end of february. All insiders discreditet.

Is PS5 going to have jet engine fan then?

Its not in announcement, but like it or not, we got number from AMDs internal testing doc. And we got it before we saw big ass die size or got confirmation of 12TF RDNA.

Yeah it's pretty sure now, 9TF and 12TF. MS is going to have the more pricey launch console though.

There's little reason to believe your Gospel over all the rest, at this point.

In fact, pretty much everything aligns with the AMD testlab leaks. Everything official doesn't with all the insiders though.

Please go preach the Gospel crap somewhere else, and tell that to your friends at your discord channel. This thread has had enough Gospel inquisition.

But not enough pretenders aight?

I don't believe so. Just alluded to deltas he'd consider "close".

PS4 and one S are close, One X and Pro are, close.

 

[Deleted member 13524]

I don't believe so. Just alluded to deltas he'd consider "close".

Did he ever put a number on said deltas? 30% is close? Less than 15% is close?

It's not the first time I've heard of resetera's Matt, but I don't follow what's happening over there.

 

[McHuj]

Very nice news today!

Now the question from me is: how much ram?

320-bit bus, I'm going to assume it will be 20GB and not a mixed setup for 16GB.