Next Generation Hardware Speculation with a Technical Spin [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]

[Picao84]

So PS5 is an always connected console. Those who don't have Internet access will have to play on their PS4.

How do you jump to this conclusion?

 

[Karamazov]

the proto devkits may need always online for tracking purpose ?

 

[Rootax]

Or, you know, it's just a screen with infos, and you can chose between network info, maybe cpu and gpu usage, temps, etc...

 

[Karamazov]

and the Tflops-O-meter

 

[Globalisateur]

This is the "baseless speculation" thread, but still. Be serious on your prediction, it's not believable that anybody would release such an "always-on" console. The whole division would have to be high on drugs for like 5 years straight to go and develop and make a public announcement of such a product. What else? A console that watches TV for you, like it's 1951 and people care about broadcast TV?

I was kidding. I forgot the /s

 

[MrFox]

From that angle the touchpad seems to have 50% more usable vertical range because they removed the rounded section. Looks like a much more useful aspect ratio.

 

[Deleted member 13524]

Or, you know, it's just a screen with infos, and you can chose between network info, maybe cpu and gpu usage, temps, etc...

No!
We need to take 100% conclusive info for the final console, ou of some unfocused text that appears in the devkit and looks like the description of an IP, Gateway, MAC address, etc. !

 

[Shifty Geezer]

If we had the IP address etc., we could hack the network and device and find out that way.

 

[Xbat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1214244020140023809

Phil Spencer's profile pic or something ?

 

[Tkumpathenurpahl]

Pretty shocking that he'd post chip pics.

 

[SlmDnk]

Phil Spencer's profile pic or something ?

Now you're just being lazy: https://twitter.com/XboxP3

 

[rokkerkory]

Pretty shocking that he'd post chip pics.

i think he did same for scorpio prior to launch?

 

[DieH@rd]

Some online measurements say 380mm2.

Launch Xbox One was 363mm2 @ 28nm. Xbox One X was 359mm2 at 16nm FF.

 

[Tkumpathenurpahl]

i think he did same for scorpio prior to launch?

Maybe. I was just making a dick pic pun. Which didn't really work.

Well, sometimes it's a swing and a miss! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[temesgen]

and the Tflops-O-meter

Pretty sure if we're using footballer to measure flops it'd be neymar (Nike, Brazil national team and PSG player)

 

[AbsoluteBeginner]

Some online measurements say 380mm2.

Launch Xbox One was 363mm2 @ 28nm. Xbox One X was 359mm2 at 16nm FF.

If it is 380mm² it is very big chip for 7nm. I have my doubts, I think its closer to 360mm² then 380mm² but lets wait and see.

 

[PSman1700]

Some online measurements say 380mm2.

Launch Xbox One was 363mm2 @ 28nm. Xbox One X was 359mm2 at 16nm FF.

Doesn't seem out of the ordinary then.

 

[DieH@rd]

Doesn't seem out of the ordinary then.

Yeah.

5700XT was ~250mm2, and this has more CUs, one 8C Zen2 module and I/O.

 

[anexanhume]

If it is 380mm² it is very big chip for 7nm. I have my doubts, I think its closer to 360mm² then 380mm² but lets wait and see.

This is with the capacitors controlling the size scaling. It’s unquestionably bigger.

edit: and with 80% more decoupling, it obviously blows Scorpio’s power budget out of the water.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1214260361383284737

 

[AbsoluteBeginner]

Yeah.

5700XT was ~250mm2, and this has more CUs, one 8C Zen2 module and I/O.

Full Zen2 has 40mm² worth of L3. If they are going with 1/4th of L3, like Flute benchmark indicated, I assume 330mm² is GPU.