What makes you say that?
In a short presentation at its MWC booth Monday, Executive Vice President & Co-COO Jeffrey Ju stated that MediaTek expects only a limited number of phones to use the Helio X30, perhaps less than ten. He also mentioned that a low yield rate for TSMC’s 10nm process has delayed the X30’s availability.
Irrelevant of what many think of the author itself or the site, Xiaomi going for its own SoCs doesn't seem to be wrong amongst others.
Xiaomi's Surge S1 is a 28nm 4+4 A53 little.LITTLE SoC with a Mali T860MP4.
It's a competitor to Mediatek's P20 and Snapdragon 625, not to X30.
This is most probably going into their Redmi line. I'm a big fan of the Redmis, I always recommend them to people on a 150-200€ budget, but that line of phones would never get a X30.
Yeah, even helio x20 with 20nm is already a power hog.A 28nm 8 cores A53 is disappointing for a 2017 SOC. When there are cheap Finfet process nodes and new IPs like Cortex A73 or new Mali G-51/71 that brings a noticeable bump in performance and efficiency without increasing the cost/area.
The tiny Qualcomm SD625 is manufactured at 16nmFF+ ( i think it was launch before the more cheap Compact version was available ) and it is being sold in devices around 200$. I just think it is too little too late. It is not like they are doing this starting from zero they partnership with Leadcore ( if i am not wrong ) which has some experience designing SOCs. And if we go to details like memory controller, image signal processor, modem and other stuff... They have a long way.Overwhelmingly the reason will be cost. 28 is much much cheaper than 16/14/12/10, due to tech and maturity.
The tiny Qualcomm SD625 is manufactured at 16nmFF+ ( i think it was launch before the more cheap Compact version was available ) and it is being sold in devices around 200$. I just think it is too little too late. It is not like they are doing this starting from zero they partnership with Leadcore ( if i am not wrong ) which has some experience designing SOCs. And if we go to details like memory controller, image signal processor, modem and other stuff... They have a long way.
Yeah, even helio x20 with 20nm is already a power hog.
The Note Pro 3 seems to have a better battery life at 28nm than the Note 4 here despite the 20SoC for the latter http://www.anandtech.com/show/11137...port-xiaomi-redmi-note-4-mediatek-helio-x20/4
they did give it a weaker gpu that the qc 8xx socsI don't get why Snapdragon 650 isn't used a lot more widely, as it does so much better than any of the little.LITTLE solutions out there.
Maybe it's a lot more expensive but damn, the 650 really is a sheep in wolf's clothing.
Which 8xx?they did give it a weaker gpu that the qc 8xx socs
I don't get why Snapdragon 650 isn't used a lot more widely, as it does so much better than any of the little.LITTLE solutions out there.
Maybe it's a lot more expensive but damn, the 650 really is a sheep in wolf's clothing.
I note that the recent IMG GDC2017 blog posting states "The Helio X30 integrates a Series7XT six-cluster design.....", whereas the mediatek info calls it an MP4
https://www.imgtec.com/blog/imagination-gdc-2017-demos-on-show/
Some reference to tessellation in that article.