It will remain the same until the end of the gen. It's pure logic.
The Caveat Wars: Gap Width Measurements *spin ad nauseam*
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It will remain the same until the end of the gen. It's pure logic.
This isnt the case with every game
X1 has clearly come a long way from launch, back when there was a 10% reservation on the six cores available for games and 10% on the GPU, and the necessary profiling tools for optimal esram use were unavailable (not to mention engineering around it taking time) and the graphics API was slow and single threaded and more costly than on PS4.
Things vary by game, obviously, but X1 has improved more and faster than PS4. Which is good because it really needed to as it was starting from relatively further behind.
Things vary by game, obviously, but X1 has improved more and faster than PS4. Which is good because it really needed to as it was starting from relatively further behind.
True, but it will be with most super stressful games.
Those games are an exception.
Actually, there are far more games where the gap is actually larger than before : Doom, Black Ops 3, Infinite Warfare, etc.
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Sorry, but i don't see that in actual games...
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Or to put it another way. It'll be generally true for any GPU limited game (most of them) and not true for any CPU limited game (rare).
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SB
At best, the XB1 should have 1 or 2 fps advantage in CPU limited games. You don't close any gap with a 9% faster CPU...
The last article from DF brought some interesting data :
"In this scene, the Pro manages just a 6fps uplift over the base PS4. The numbers correspond to the 31 per cent increase in CPU power in the new console, suggesting that the AMD Jaguars are the limiting factor in this scene."
No
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-ps4-face-off
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-overwatch-face-off
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-hitman-face-off
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-fallout-4-face-off
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-battlefield-1-face-off
And no its not bigger either in most cases where the gap is kinda noticeable
My point was about the most demanding games... you could also put Rayman or Skyrim in your examples...
A game that runs at 1080p on XB1 is by nature a non-demanding game... as a game that runs at native 4K on PS4 Pro is by nature a non-demanding game.
There is only one valid argument in your examples : BF1. Indeed, compared to Battlefront, the gap is lower.
Some recent games where the gap is larger than most 2014 games :
- http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-doom-face-off
- http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-call-of-duty-black-ops-3-face-off
- http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-f1-2016-face-off
- http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-titanfall-2-face-off
- http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-doom-face-off
- http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-call-of-duty-black-ops-3-face-off
- http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-f1-2016-face-off
- http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-titanfall-2-face-off
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That's some pretty backwards logic. why can't a game be demanding and 1080p, by sacrificing other aspects of the graphics to hit the resolution target? Hypothetically for illustration, a 1080p photorealistic FPS knitting simulator with full fabric fibre simulation on the GPU and raytraced needle tech running at 5fps - by your definition that's undemanding because it's picked a 1080p target.
Ok, you are right.
However, games running at 1080p on XB1 are a pretty bad comparison because developers usually only dare to upgrade the resolution on PS4. See Destiny, Mad Max, Hitman, etc.
Silent_Buddha
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That's some pretty backwards logic. why can't a game be demanding and 1080p, by sacrificing other aspects of the graphics to hit the resolution target? Hypothetically for illustration, a 1080p photorealistic FPS knitting simulator with full fabric fibre simulation on the GPU and raytraced needle tech running at 5fps - by your definition that's undemanding because it's picked a 1080p target.
I think what he's saying is that anything that doesn't show a very large lead for PS4 isn't a demanding game. By that logic, Battlefield 1 is a very simplistic game that doesn't stress any machine in the slightest.
Regards,
SB
Perhaps you could try speaking to people making games for the hardware, who've been on it since launch and had time to bang on the hardware?
The examples I gave are supposed to be demanding
F1 and Doom dont show a larger gap, Black Ops 3 is not recent, and Titan Fall 2 seems consistent with what we saw in the past at most.
I already said that BF1 was a valid example.
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