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Not exactly..for example GTX960M (GM107) was clocked higher than the desktop 750Ti (~80mhz higher base clock). But 200 Mhz seems a bit of a stretch..especially since the other mobile Pascals have lower base clocks than their desktop counterparts. Even if we assume the same clock as the desktop though..the performance should be close to 970M..impressive!
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Anyone else find it interesting that they state that the combined tdp of the cpu and gpu is about 150W to cool?
If it's a mobile 45ishW CPU, then that's one more data point that suggests that the laptop 1070 puts off about 100ishW of heat.
Not earthshattering, but secret mobile TDPs make these kinds of data points helpful.
Only one Pascal mobile has less base clocks, that is the 1070, and that is because its got more functional shader units. All other Pascals *outside of the 1050ti* have the same base clocks as their desktop variants.
Well this was the whole discussion about TDP, its one thing for just a card and its components or a CPU, the form factor makes a big difference because if they are able to move heat away faster due to design, the TDP will be greater due to the design.
But yeah its interesting that its only 150 watts, 45 watts for the CPU and 105 watts for the GPU seems like they did a pretty good job for an I7 (no specs so I'm assuming its configurable) and a 1070.
Indeed, take your pick of quad-core mobile skylakes.
I assume mobile 1070 is just underclocked in the mid-1.4GHz range? I suppose it's nice to attach a figure to that.
Not very surprising since Nvidia stated that the Mobile 1070 has a similar TDP to 980M which was ~100W.
I'm assuming that was from your lower back again..because like I said (and Nvidia seems to agree with me here...) the base clock for mobile 1080 is 1556 Mhz vs 1607 Mhz desktop, for the 1070 it is 1442 Mhz vs 1506 Mhz Desktop and for the 1060 it is 1404 Mhz vs 1506 Mhz Desktop - http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/notebook
Yep! Mobile 1070 has a base clock of 1442 mhz.
The desktop efficiency figures produced by Tom's Hardware can also be of interest, they did similar for the 480 and 1060.
They use Metro Last Light at 4k as it is one of the heavier power demand titles from their experience on both AMD and Nvidia.
More details can be found in the following URL, the interesting one is MSI 1070 card and how close all its results are from a frame time in ms perspective:http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-pascal-performance,4585-8.html
Seems the 1070 is a good candidate considering price, strong performance and efficiency requirement settings in laptops.
Their conclusion as well:
But then the results for the 1060 from an efficiency perspective are pretty incredible, 62W at base clock when gaming.
It does seem this is one area Pascal has really jumped beyond Maxwell, in terms of performance at low power consumption settings.
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ImSpartacus
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Thanks for sharing that.
I knew the notebook pascal variants had lower clocks (there's no free lunch, lol), but I had been referencing the Wikipedia page.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units
Much better when it comes from the horse's mouth.
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That's interesting. Sounds like they are really aiming for that "desktop" 1060 performance level (assuming the cooling is up to task).
You're welcome..and yes..aint that the truth! There's no magical way to reduce TDP unfortunately. But in most cases we'll be within 10-20% of the desktop performance..so its still quite good.
Yes that is the official spec. Does it boost beyond the official boost clock at any time? I would think not because of the lower power limits and cooling.
Just to add.
Seems to be pretty similar battery power used to the 980M but with nearly double the performance.
Hardware Canucks compared a laptop from the same manufacturer with identical spec for 980M and the mobile variant 1070.
Models to reference are the Eurocom Tornado GTX1070 and also Eurocom Tornado GTX980M.
And quick snapshot of 2 games, known to be one good and one bad for Nvidia:
The review approach summary is:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...notebook-gpu-battle-gtx-1070-vs-gtx-980m.html
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I'm not sure how to really get proper measurement. I used gpu-z log to file and ran 3dmark time spy. The clocks look to hover around 1580Mhz +-20MHz. Peak was 1657.5MHz. Memory seems to be 2003.4MHz. Peak GPU temp was 74C. Interestingly after timespy was done gpu clocked itself way way down to 139.0Mhz. The gpu score was 3 407. I have no idea how that compares.
On desktop use while browsing and playing youtube video I see gpu 607.5MHz memory 202.5MHz gpu temp stable 49C.
The machine is clearly cooler and quieter on desktop use when disabling nvidia gpu and using the intel integrated one.
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That seems to be on the low side actually. A desktop 1070 has a GPU score of about 5500 with Async compute on. I would have expected the mobile version to score at least 4500. This test is being run with the laptop plugged into the mains right?
it's a 1060 on razer blade. It was plugged in. I think it was running proper as the clocks were in boost range.
Ohh right...my bad..I had just read the 1070 post above so got them mixed up! That score is absolutely fine for a 1060.
I'm just waiting for the 1050Ti and 1050 mobile to launch. Just a bit over two weeks to go for Black Friday..hoping we see some laptops by then.
In the Nvidia driver control panel there is an option called Power management mode under Manage 3D settings. For Pascal Nvidia added a new default setting 'Optimal Power'. If you want stable clocks in the boost range without clock drops when playing games or benchmarking then you should change it to 'Prefer maximum performance' if you haven't already done it.
Looks like someone got his hands on a rack full of GP100 SKUs and ran some benches: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/688793-benchmark-10x-tesla-p100-gpu-nvtp100-16/
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