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Who the f**k is Axel?
Who the f**k is Axel?
Doom [PC]
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VFX_Veteran
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Very good talk.
If there is one thing I'd say that is the biggest shortcoming in DOOM, it would be the texture size. They are relatively low and I'm wondering if the art team made higher res versions of these textures where there is some hidden mode to access them for users that have 12G of VRAM (i.e. Titan X).
If there is one thing I'd say that is the biggest shortcoming in DOOM, it would be the texture size. They are relatively low and I'm wondering if the art team made higher res versions of these textures where there is some hidden mode to access them for users that have 12G of VRAM (i.e. Titan X).
Having the game fit on a BR for consoles is probably a concern when you're using as much texture space as DOOM is...
Even as it is, my DOOM folder sits at 54GB. cheapchips
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Since it uses virtual texture wouldn't that be more of a performance/art pipeline/storage issue than a VRAM one? What is a 4k virtual page size?
Silent_Buddha
Legend
If development is similar to Rage then the textures used will be massively larger than what was shipped. Then when it came time to ship variable compression (depending on users view) will be applied to get it to fit onto shipping medium.
In other words, the shipped game will be constrained by storage size more than anything else.
Regards,
SB
The game has a 32gb folder for virtual textures, i think that's just a side effect of using mega textures. They are unique and look really good from a distance and give the impression of fine detail but they don't hold up very well up close. But you are not supposed to stop and look at textures while playing Doom anyway so i think it's not that much of an issue
Edit: The folder
cheapchips
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Rage was around 1TB uncompressed I believe. The file is knocking about if you want to run that game in '16k' mode. Wonder if ID will release the Doom source megatexture at some point? And if Blu-ray and download size weren't limiting factors where the actual compression sweet spot is.
I'd buy that for a dollar!
Silent_Buddha
Legend
They should also make sure it's a 2 TB SSD drive that is used as well. Then charge 1200 USD for the whole package and market it towards the people that buy the new Titan X for 1200 USD for gaming.
Regards,
SB
Virtual texturing in DOOM is no longer completely unique, they added proper support for texture tiling etc.The game has a 32gb folder for virtual textures, i think that's just a side effect of using mega textures. They are unique and look really good from a distance and give the impression of fine detail but they don't hold up very well up close. But you are not supposed to stop and look at textures while playing Doom anyway so i think it's not that much of an issue
VFX_Veteran
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The game has a 32gb folder for virtual textures, i think that's just a side effect of using mega textures. They are unique and look really good from a distance and give the impression of fine detail but they don't hold up very well up close. But you are not supposed to stop and look at textures while playing Doom anyway so i think it's not that much of an issue
Edit: The folder
32G is quiet small actually. I talked to one of the lighters there and yea, the textures could have used higher resolution versions. No biggie though, the game is still incredible looking and fun to play!
In the context of a game it is pretty big, especially even after compression. But i agree that it is no issue as the game plays to its strengths quite remarkably. I was thinking that it may be possible to release a texture pack with double (or even triple) the size but i'm not sure how that would work with steam and/or ps/xbox.
I thought the game looked kinda low poly much of the time too. There are some corridors that made me think of Doom 3. Though I think Doom3 and its narrow goals have held up rather well.
What blew my mind about Doom was how my notebook's 860M could only run it adequately at 1360x768 with the low detail preset. It's vastly more demanding than Wolf New Order. And Rage ran just super on an 8800GT.
What blew my mind about Doom was how my notebook's 860M could only run it adequately at 1360x768 with the low detail preset. It's vastly more demanding than Wolf New Order. And Rage ran just super on an 8800GT.
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The original Unreal had a S3TC 2nd disc
It was Unreal Tournament.
People actually bought S3 cards to use that.
Or used manual hacks to use them on other cards.It was Unreal Tournament.
I would love an official release of a better texture pack. What would be the disadvantages of doing this ?
The work may be almost done already, decrease the compression, or just torrent the whole thing uncompressed with a way to generate pak ourselves or whatever the format is.
Or keep it under wraps until remaster times, as sad as it is
The work may be almost done already, decrease the compression, or just torrent the whole thing uncompressed with a way to generate pak ourselves or whatever the format is.
Or keep it under wraps until remaster times, as sad as it is
