Uncharted 4: A Thief's End [PS4]

[loekf]

you can watch my video.

Yissss.

Yeah, public or anyone who used to have a beta key ?

I'm so happy I finally after all those years managed to finish UC1 and UC2 !!

In UC1 I got fed up with the

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zombie monsters at the marine base

and in UC2 it was those damn guardians

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at the entrance of Shambala

UC3 was much easier to play again. The ending has no real boss fight at the end. Guess UC3 is the best for me, then UC1 and UC2. The end of UC2 is a bit uneven and feels like they lacked inspiration.

 

[loekf]

Huge improvments in textures and PBR etc ,,, wow

PSX 2014 Gameplay demo:
Story Trailer 2016:

That's night and day, huge difference.

 

[Egmon83]

I really love the graphics, but when I compare all available U4 footage to U3; it seems like U3 is using 150% of my PS3, where U4 only appears to use... 60-70% ? the game will be amazing but I am sure TLoU 2 will look much, much better.

 

[ShamePain]

That's night and day, huge difference.

it's exact same time of day for both !

 

[Shifty Geezer]

It's a phrase meaning the difference between the two images is considerable, like the difference between daytime and nighttime.

 

[ShamePain]

It's a phrase meaning the difference between the two images is considerable, like the difference between daytime and nighttime.

oh okay, my mistake

 

[L. Scofield]

2 0 1 5 E 3

Story Trailer

No AO differences.

Easily missable but i think I've found the culprit for the difference in color between PSX 2014 and the current build. For reference PSX: http://abload.de/img/uncharted4_demo_psx_1yqs1s.jpg Current: http://abload.de/img/uncharted4_story_eng28jsjp.jpg

Translucent vegetation?

In the trailer

The beta

Old PSX build

Other games trying (or not) to do this (Crysis 3, MGSV, RotTR)

Translucency would explain leaves looking brighter from below, not from above. It's a change in art direction.

Them opacity map magic, I think it's similar to the effect found in The Witcher 3.

Looks almost painting like in UC4 tho due to volumetric lighting and volumetric fog

I'd attribute it more to the fog sprite sheets since there's barely any volumetric lighting/fog in the scene.

Huge improvments in textures and PBR etc ,,, wow

PSX 2014 Gameplay demo:

Story Trailer 2016:

Looks different because one is looking towards the cave and the other away from it.

 

[loekf]

I really love the graphics, but when I compare all available U4 footage to U3; it seems like U3 is using 150% of my PS3, where U4 only appears to use... 60-70% ? the game will be amazing but I am sure TLoU 2 will look much, much better.

Still TLOU remastered is the only game, which makes my PS4 spin its fans to some audible level. Maybe The Order as well. I still can't believe that they were able to squeeze a game like TLOU from the PS3.

 

[orangpelupa]

Translucency would explain leaves looking brighter from below, not from above.

why? looking down on a leaf is still tranluscent

try it while moving your finger under it. you can see your finger "shillouette"

 

[ultragpu]

No AO differences.


Translucency would explain leaves looking brighter from below, not from above. It's a change in art direction.


I'd attribute it more to the fog sprite sheets since there's barely any volumetric lighting/fog in the scene.


Looks different because one is looking towards the cave and the other away from it.

AO is clearly added ever since the beta.
Look at the tree at the top, clearly translucent. You also see translucency from looking down, just like bat's membrane. Get your physics straight.
Fog sprites would rotate according to camera but they're not rotating here, you can see it in the PSX demo even.

 

[Clukos]

Translucency would explain leaves looking brighter from below, not from above.

That's not how light works. Subsurface scattering is trying to approximate how light scatters within an object, which is why the ears glow red no matter the direction you're looking at.

 

[Clukos]

Looked at some beta footage from gamersyde. Really good looking end result for the vegetation, even at the more demanding 60 fps

Now look at that

The bullet is casting a spotlight and the vegetation is also affected like it would in the way sss works. Also notice the subtle sss on nathans ear when the bullet is close to him. Really nice stuff from the beta few months ago.

Edit: as a gif

 

[ultragpu]

Yeah it's a nice effect alright, reminds me of The Order muzzle flash and causing SSS on Galahad's face. Seems to be entirely missing in Quantum Break tho.

One thing I noticed is the shattered glasses seem to pick up lights thus creating specular highlight, not many game does that.

 

[Egmon83]

This is clearly photoshopped:

the people in the bottom left are clearly edited in

 

[ultragpu]

This is clearly photoshopped:

the people in the bottom left are clearly edited in

Am I missing sarcasm here?

 

[deckard]

Yeah it's a nice effect alright, reminds me of The Order muzzle flash and causing SSS on Galahad's face. Seems to be entirely missing in Quantum Break tho.

One thing I noticed is the shattered glasses seem to pick up lights thus creating specular highlight, not many game does that.

It does you can see the specular highlights on his hand and jacket from the muzzle flash, they have just done it differently.

Also The Order 1886 also does the glass reflection, in the airship shoot out scene is a good place to see it.

 

[ultragpu]

It does you can see the specular highlights on his hand and jacket from the muzzle flash, they have just done it differently.

Not talking about the specular highlights, it's about that SSS hack which is seemingly missing.

 

[deckard]

Not talking about the specular highlights, it's about that SSS hack which is seemingly missing.

Oh right, sorry yes at this point does not look present, still in dev though and judging from the demo tears, sampling issues and such the game still has some areas to work on from this showing.

Does look very good.

 

[milk]

Subsurface scattering does happen from any angle, of course, but it needs light coming from behind to happen, and for ground shrubs, seen from above, there's gonna be very little light coming from underneath it.

 

[L. Scofield]

why? looking down on a leaf is still tranluscent

try it while moving your finger under it. you can see your finger "shillouette"

Perhaps I didn't explain myself correctly. A translucent object would look brighter on the "dark side" when compared with an opaque object. However, their "bright side", in this case the top part being lit by the sun would see not look brighter. In fact, it would look darker because light that would have otherwise reflected off the surface now managed to escape through the other side of the object.

AO is clearly added ever since the beta.
Look at the tree at the top, clearly translucent. You also see translucency from looking down, just like bat's membrane. Get your physics straight.
Fog sprites would rotate according to camera but they're not rotating here, you can see it in the PSX demo even.

I didn't say that AO wasn't part of the game. I said, very clearly, that based on those Sam&Nate comparison shots there was no difference in AO between E3 2015 and the newest trailer.

As for the fog sprites, I meant the cloudy looking fog in the scene, not the old-standard exponential fog.

That's not how light works. Subsurface scattering is trying to approximate how light scatters within an object, which is why the ears glow red no matter the direction you're looking at.

Translucency is not SSS, but even objects with SSS materials don't look brighter than those with opaque materials on the side being lit directly.