News & Rumors: Xbox One (codename Durango)

[AzBat]

Here are 2 more bundles, $349 & $499 respectively...

I really hope they are planning on dropping the price on the Kinect bundle. Plus, another Gears bundle? At least it's $349 for an all white console.

http://news.xbox.com/2015/10/xbox-one-special-edition-gears-of-war-and-xbox-one-with-kinect-bundles

Tommy McClain

 

[Rikimaru]

It is a cold boot.

"cold boot" boot time.

 

[iroboto]

"cold boot" boot time.

There will be a more in-depth analysis at a later date when the actual product is fully released. It's likely faster given the speed at which w10 boots up compared to w8

 

[function]

Kinect bundle is great value. For only $499 you can be transported back in time to 2014.

 

[Rikimaru]

There will be a more in-depth analysis at a later date when the actual product is fully released. It's likely faster given the speed at which w10 boots up compared to w8

We do not know if they use W10 kernel or stayed on forked 8.

 

[iroboto]

We do not know if they use W10 kernel or stayed on forked 8.

I was at Build2015. I know it's using Windows 10, otherwise a handful of my sessions would be moot.
Win8 does not support UWP in the way that W10 does - and xbox will be supporting the latter.

 

[Rikimaru]

UWP does not need kernel changes.

 

[iroboto]

It has to support device families.
Win8 only runs runtime specific UWP.
MS is only designing towards a Windows 10 future for all their products. Single kernel runs from raspberry Pi to Hololens.

 

[Scott_Arm]

They've stated multiple times they're updating the Xbox One from the Windows 8 kernel to a customized Windows 10 kernel. So unless you believe they're outright lying, there's no reason to believe it is not true.

 

[Rikimaru]

So unless you believe they're outright lying, there's no reason to believe it is not true.

I won't be surprised if marketing people call initial 8 fork with some patches from 10 a w10 kernel.

 

[BRiT]

I won't be surprised if marketing people call initial 8 fork with some patches from 10 a w10 kernel.

Please check your negative attitude at the door. We're frankly tired of your unsubstantiated FUD at this point.

 

[tuna]

Please check your negative attitude at the door. We're frankly tired of your unsubstantiated FUD at this point.

I like his negative attitude. Also, unless you have access to the XBO's source code you have no idea if it is FUD or not. Also, what difference would it make?

 

[eastmen]

I don't get the point of putting the xbox one on a fork of windows 8 ? Seriously, there are like 15m xbox ones out there . Why continue supporting windows 8 kernels ? The main strength would be to get as many people on windows 10 kernel as possible which is why its free for a year on the pc to those with 7 or 8.

The only thing that's getting forked is the surface rt line but there are a few million at best and shrinking all the time in regards to that and its using arm chips unlike pc's that use x86-64bit which is what the xbox one is also on.

 

[BadTB25]

Please check your negative attitude at the door. We're frankly tired of your unsubstantiated FUD at this point.

About time!

 

[egoless]

I saw that too. Anybody here get the new dash & can attest to these speed improvements? I finally opted in but haven't made the cut yet.

Tommy McClain

Yes it's faster, but I wouldn't try to quantify it until closer to release.

 

[Scott_Arm]

I like his negative attitude. Also, unless you have access to the XBO's source code you have no idea if it is FUD or not. Also, what difference would it make?

Xbox One is really running a modified Windows ME kernel. No one can prove that it's not. There is a flying spaghetti monster that alters the results of carbon dating tests. No one can prove that there's not.

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[Rockster]

Or just listen to Mike Ybarra in person on the Major Nelson podcast ep. 553 around the 39 minute mark.

 

[pMax]

Xbox One is really running a modified Windows ME kernel

You're wrong - it boots, so it can't be

OT rikimaru didnt say anything wrong. It's the same reason you very often backport patches instead of doing full OS upgrades (linux is a classic example, microsoft's compattelrunning sp*ware backported in 7 & 8 is another example).

It simply depends how many changes they had to do for the port. I don't think you need full w10 capabilities in a locked device, so it is quite possible.
From a cost perspective, I would probably do it, as backporting stuff is much cheaper.

 

[iroboto]

His post history suggests otherwise. He continues to one liner/drive by comments that are backed by nothing.

This site has banned several individuals who repeatedly believe that Xbox is capable of X or Y because of unsubstantiated proof. And that MS had created this amazing product on their hands that is crazy built for the future.

Rikimaru is doing the same thing only against the product where everything positive is a lie and anything negative is true. It's the same tired story but from the other side. Since he has started posting here it has always been largely an anti MS sentiment.

There is no respect there for the talented individuals who actually work on these products because their pay stub has MS on it. It's ridiculous and personally it has no place here in a technical forum. If we have specific rules about AMD and Nvidia badgering there should be equal stances for consoles.

What is the point of pro Sony fan boys or anti MS sentiment coming into these threads constantly? Is it that bad that consumers are getting better return on their investment than previously?

 

[AzBat]

Last bundle is a Fallout 3 & 4 bundle...

http://news.xbox.com/2015/10/xbox-o...-coming-exclusively-on-xbox-one-this-november

1TB drive & 2 games for $399. The $399 1TB bundles really make Kinect bundle look terrible. The Kinect, although a nice add-on, just doesn't feel like it's worth the $150 premium no matter how many games it includes. Glad I got mine refurbished for $340 when I did.

Tommy McClain