Having worked with them on a few titles and working with others who have worked with them on completely separate titles, I would say that is the complete opposite of true compared to other publishers. We always enjoyed working with them, and they have always been very supportive of our autonomy on a project. Not so good on paying quickly but that's common with large companies in and out of the games industry.
Business Approach Comparison Sony PS4 and Microsoft Xbox
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Having worked with them on a few titles and working with others who have worked with them on completely separate titles, I would say that is the complete opposite of true compared to other publishers. We always enjoyed working with them, and they have always been very supportive of our autonomy on a project. Not so good on paying quickly but that's common with large companies in and out of the games industry.
Could all these articles stink because they have actually been pulled out of someones' ass?
http://allthingsd.com/20131126/micr...-more-to-build-than-sonys-ps4-teardown-shows/
http://allthingsd.com/20131126/micr...-more-to-build-than-sonys-ps4-teardown-shows/
Pretty much how all large businesses operate.
Its not a rule. Some have them at a greater extend some at a lesser. Its usually large companies that started a very long time ago that have it at a higher extend. They carry with them a culture from an age where a vertical hierarchy and a more authoritative ideology was the norm for how to do things
Techinsight teardown is completely bonkers.
IHS iSuppli have been quoted on B3D for years, are we going to change that?
PS3 : $381
XB1 : $471
Damn, PS3 still sold at a loss??
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Techinsight teardown is completely bonkers.
IHS iSuppli have been quoted on B3D for years, are we going to change that?
PS4 : $381
XB1 : $471
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If true, it's a manageble loss, it can be offset by just one first party game sold together with the console. For both comps.
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Back when the PS4 and the XB1 where being designed, it was not clear wether or not dense enough GDDR5 modules would be available for them to have 8GB. It was pretty much a perfect storm that allowed Sony to have 8GB, it was previously 4GB before they secured supply of the denser modules. Theres a lot more then just cost that these decisions get made on, and they got made a long time ago.
Officially both companies have said something similar: that they would more or less break even on the actual console hardware, and profit from everything else.
The availability of 4Gbits chips was relative to the latest die shrink of GDDR5, so the cost certainly went down at the same time, the 4Gbits are about the same area as 2Gbits from the previous node.
I think we're going to see affordable 8GB and 12GB GPU cards very soon
Why would they get fired? You're make a lot of assumptions that they wanted a GPU as powerful as the PS4's or would have signed up for 8GB of GDDR5 even if they had know it was going to be available.
This post goes a long way to show how superficial your understanding of this situation is.
The major design decisions on these consoles were made years ago. Noone could have predicted the current situation correctly, it was a very risky move on Sony's part that payed off. Historically, such risks tend to ruin companies.
Not to mention MS is making a nice profit from hardware. They could always price reduce later if they feel they need to.
I understand it better than you think. With Allard and a lot of key members gone, it probably went like this.
MS gambled on Kinect, DRM, TV and multimedia functions. History will show the victor.
Like I said: once the higher-ups realise the situation, and how much marketshare all decisions will cost them, not to mention probable losses of billions of dollars.. I am pretty sure some heads are gonna roll.
I can tell you that the next Dean Takahashi book will be a really interesting read.
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From that perspective, I guess the 100 dollar difference in price is something that only poor people obsess over.
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Personally I think MS made the right compromises to achieve what we have in the X1. The games already show that the graphics are fantastic and can only get better which means the average Joe will be quite satisfied and not be worried about stupid things that nerds with magnifying glasses obsess over.
Except that they aren't.
They said that they either break even or make a small profit. Same for Sony.
Official statements are roughly matching IHS iSuppli teardown estimates.
Except that they aren't.
They said that they break even or make a small profit. Same for Sony.
MS doesn't need to sell any games to make a profit on the console. SONY loses money on each console.
I don't see any widespread obsession over the price. Anybody who wants one got one and those who don't want the bundled camera are free to go elsewhere to save $100.
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