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HollovVpo1nt
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Not sure how they'll engineer something like that in less then a year.
Sorry to disappoint.
I'm not some Sony fanboy that is looking to kick MS when they are down. I've been on xbox since day one with the original Halo even with the doubts at e3 that the framerate might struggle. (I was actually a Halo fan first, wanted to get it for PC before MS bought Bungie and made it exclusive)
Just seeing where MS is taking Xbox is like seeing a girlfriend choose to do destructive things in her life which you know will ruin her. At some point, it sucks, but you say enough is enough and find greener pastures.
I hate to be leaving what I considered to be the best gaming platform the past two gens.
But this spec prior to any downgrade rumors was already meh to begin with.
I just see others fighting harder for my gaming dollar.
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I have never seen him to be wrong. I been on here and gaf for a long time.
Bagel seed
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TSMC fabs might already be at the limit of production capacity though. And downclock is a last resort.
I agree. Even if it means a very limited launch. Yields will improve over time, clocks can't.
This whole thing is getting blown out of proportion, until a credible website writes and article this is just more of the same. There has been nothing but wild speculation regarding the XB1 up to and including impact that the cloud is going to have. To some degree its understandable as the business model still needs to be flushed out and proven but the lengths people are willing to go to discredit the hardware and in other cases the duplicity some are going to hide weaknesses that are well known is pretty alarming. I am actually surprised that so many are taking GAF seriously after all the bad info that has come out of there.........
If the rumor turns out to be true its likely we'll simply see a supply constrained platform at launch. The 360 and PS3 are virtually tied for hardware sales so in the long run it doesn't matter that much. This is a marathon not a foot race.
The P2B will drive this into ground as deep as possible as a lot egos and careers are connected with this direction.
Who needs TFlops when you can be the Big Flop.
P.S. Neogaf is really creative in creating dissing slogans
he was wrong on something. for some reason a resident evil is popping in my head. like he said a certain re title was exclusive and it wasn't.
i'm not going to research it but i know he was wrong once. not very helpful i know lol.
i agree he's a legit insider.
Does anyone understand how yield affects MS outside of volumes?
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They could if they used 100% off-the-shelf components.
And I really mean off-the-shelf, like a mini-ITX board with a Trinity/Richland, 8GB DDR3 and a low-profile PCI-Express HD7850, all soldered.
It would be a kick-in-the-nuts for the prospects of making it cheaper in the long run, but it would be a bit beyond the PS4 on graphics capabilities and CPU power. On GPGPU it would probably stay behind because of a lackluster bandwidth between CPU and GPU.
I guess that if decreasing the clocks is in the table, it's because the initial low yields would result in a massive shortage of stock for too long, which would give the PS4 too much of a head-start.
Great popcorn internets indeed, but terrible for a competition-driven market in the long run..
The problem is when someone credible says it, xbox fans will try and discredit it anyway. Even if Major Nelson said it I doubt it would be believed.
the fact cboat didn't confirm the downclock on gaf...
more or less makes it likely he didnt confirm it off gaf...because he probably said something similar to what he said on gaf in some irc channel, and they quickly ran with it.
throws the whole thing into question again imo. it's back to "thuway said"
and bruceleeeroy is said to only have sony contacts.
matt was ambigous as well. we have no confirmation from legit insiders.
more or less makes it likely he didnt confirm it off gaf...because he probably said something similar to what he said on gaf in some irc channel, and they quickly ran with it.
throws the whole thing into question again imo. it's back to "thuway said"
and bruceleeeroy is said to only have sony contacts.
matt was ambigous as well. we have no confirmation from legit insiders.
GrimThorne
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No kidding. People forget that Sony used to be just as mean and monopolistic as Microsoft's Xbox Division has become.
But this is what happens, they have to fall on their face and break their noses in the process before they get message.
According to GAF, Remember Me was going to be announced as exclusive at E3 2012. Might've just been a deal that fell apart at the last moment, though, his being wrong.
P.S. what's up with this thread's tags?
Averagejoe
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Microsoft cancels post-E3 media roundtable.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=61401157&postcount=1
This doesn't look good they are canceling the post E3 media roundtable..
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=61401157&postcount=1
This doesn't look good they are canceling the post E3 media roundtable..
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