GTA V announced [2011] , [2021-11-11]

[(((interference)))]

Lol, you'd think people would be more offended by all the violent virtual killing going on in GTA5 rather than the virtual swearing.

"I really want to play this game where I can run over pedestrians with a dump truck, blow up police cars with RPGs and run around chainsawing guys, but I wish they'd get rid of the swearing"!

 

[Sigfried1977]

That is indeed kinda baffling.

 

[Rangers]

Wow, if that really was running on the PS3 in real time then I think GTA5 might win the most technically impressive game of this gen award.

But not if it was running on 360?

Anyways, I've never really played much of GTA. I got suckered into buying GTA4 by IGN's horrible more or less paid for perfect 10 review by Hilary.

But it just occurs to me it's the pinnacle of high production value games. More than any other game. Literally just so many people working on this thing, because it has the sales to support that. It's sort of insane how deep it must be.

R* said it was the PS3 version. Looked pretty damn impressive for an open world, current gen game.

I dunno, my guess would be show the PC version for that bit of extra polish always. Parts of it look next gen quality to me. It def looks a bit too polished to be PS360 to me.

 

[RenegadeRocks]

Depends on what irritates you. The violence doesn't distrb me but characters hurtling abuses at me irritates me. The violence is just a cartoony version of the real world, its fake in every way,. you never feel like you are murdering someone when u shoot in a game(except in a very few select games). neither do you feel that u r being murdered when you die. but the swearing is exaclt the way it is in real,sounds and feels real to me. I isn't some fake cartoony version of it ! It sounds just as bad as it sounds in real life. Nino kuni has some fake swearing, by Drippy, and its funny and entertaining ! But in GTA, and in many more games these days, it feels unnecessary and overdone. GTA's satire is understandable, but in other games its totally unnecessary.

Brutal legend and Prey relaised there are people who prefer to turn them off , they provided the option, most games don't. This si th eonly thing that turns me off from a game, unnecessary swearing.
I would enjoy GTA much more if people there would talk like people, not like a heap of garbage ! But then its GTA, it exactly makes fun of that and so has it in heaps. Every character is dysfunctional and weird.

Don't wish to derail the thread,I just said I wished there was an option like in BL and Prey, to add beeps. I, personally, would enjoy it more and concentrate on the fun gameplay.

 

[Bagel seed]

Saw the 720p video from Gamersyde. It looks 'ok'. It was definitely more impressive when I first saw it on my phone Too bad about no first day PC version. I could never wait around for it.

 

[milk]

Depends on what irritates you. The violence doesn't distrb me but characters hurtling abuses at me irritates me. The violence is just a cartoony version of the real world, its fake in every way,. you never feel like you are murdering someone when u shoot in a game(except in a very few select games). neither do you feel that u r being murdered when you die. but the swearing is exaclt the way it is in real,sounds and feels real to me. I isn't some fake cartoony version of it ! It sounds just as bad as it sounds in real life. Nino kuni has some fake swearing, by Drippy, and its funny and entertaining ! But in GTA, and in many more games these days, it feels unnecessary and overdone. GTA's satire is understandable, but in other games its totally unnecessary.

Brutal legend and Prey relaised there are people who prefer to turn them off , they provided the option, most games don't. This si th eonly thing that turns me off from a game, unnecessary swearing.
I would enjoy GTA much more if people there would talk like people, not like a heap of garbage ! But then its GTA, it exactly makes fun of that and so has it in heaps. Every character is dysfunctional and weird.

Don't wish to derail the thread,I just said I wished there was an option like in BL and Prey, to add beeps. I, personally, would enjoy it more and concentrate on the fun gameplay.

I'd agree there are many games where swearing is overdone just for the sake of being "mature" and "edgy" ( to the eyes of the 9 - 14 year old public they are actually after despite the ratings ). Killzone 2 was a great example.
Now I wouldn't put GTA on that category. I had the impression of the series being very childish and imature during the ps2 era, with San Andreas being the pinacle of its american-rich-white-boy-teenagy-fantasy ( their consumer in fact ), and it was not completely wrong, though today I see it had its style. It was a exagerated superposition of american B thug movies, and as such, cornyness is to be expected. But rockstar has some great writers, and they always manage to throw in some clever social comentary in their games, present even on GTAIII, but more on the radio sation's adds than on character's dialogues. But with IV, it became much less childish - still a caricature, and still fantastical, but less so than in the past - and I'd say it doesn't abuse foul language for no reason. It's character might swear more than your particular circle of friends, but that's because they are drug dealers, thieves, criminals and so. They actually are many times more eloquent and whitty than what their real life counterparts would be, and surelly use much less slang too for the sake of being understandable to us regular tax-paying citizens.

 

[Gitaroo]

LA Noire was not using Rage iirc.

That being said GTAV looks like a big improvement on the PS3, curious to see how the 360 version will turn out.

thought it wasn't but irc DF said it was.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

On the way home listened to the C&VG's interview with a Rockstar North dude and lots of info, most of which I've already forgotten. Cars sound crazily customizable with around 1,000 permutations of modifications including bullet proof tyres, armour plating and even tweaking breaks, so it's not just cosmetic and limited to NOS.

I'm assuming they have a better mechanism for retaining cars if players are going to be encouraged to spend a lot on customisations. There was also talk of cars being left in the street going to the impound and having to pay a fine to retrieve it.

I really hope they fixed the phenomenon where, when you find a rare car and drive around in it, every other car is the same as yours. That was just nuts.

 

[RenegadeRocks]

I'd agree there are many games where swearing is overdone just for the sake of being "mature" and "edgy" ( to the eyes of the 9 - 14 year old public they are actually after despite the ratings ). Killzone 2 was a great example.
Now I wouldn't put GTA on that category. I had the impression of the series being very childish and imature during the ps2 era, with San Andreas being the pinacle of its american-rich-white-boy-teenagy-fantasy ( their consumer in fact ), and it was not completely wrong, though today I see it had its style. It was a exagerated superposition of american B thug movies, and as such, cornyness is to be expected. But rockstar has some great writers, and they always manage to throw in some clever social comentary in their games, present even on GTAIII, but more on the radio sation's adds than on character's dialogues. But with IV, it became much less childish - still a caricature, and still fantastical, but less so than in the past - and I'd say it doesn't abuse foul language for no reason. It's character might swear more than your particular circle of friends, but that's because they are drug dealers, thieves, criminals and so. They actually are many times more eloquent and whitty than what their real life counterparts would be, and surelly use much less slang too for the sake of being understandable to us regular tax-paying citizens.

I agree about the social commentary part. GTA4 had fantastic radio shows which ridiculed so many things about american society/govt openly that I actually laughed. Its funny to see how whole societies are being fooled by capitalism all over the world. Happens all around me too.

And , frankly, Nico is one sensible guy in that mad house ! I really liked his responses to what people around him said and did. I stopped playing cos the game gets repetitive after a while, there is no increase in skill or complexity at all. You drive, auto-aim shoot, drive back. In fact, it is the characters which kept me playing for so long.

However good their writing might get in the future, GTA has an image which R* won't change. Abuses will always be in and most prbly porn will follow.

 

[-tkf-]

Depends on what irritates you. The violence doesn't distrb me but characters hurtling abuses at me irritates me. The violence is just a cartoony version of the real world, its fake in every way,. you never feel like you are murdering someone when u shoot in a game(except in a very few select games). neither do you feel that u r being murdered when you die. but the swearing is exaclt the way it is in real,sounds and feels real to me. I isn't some fake cartoony version of it ! It sounds just as bad as it sounds in real life. Nino kuni has some fake swearing, by Drippy, and its funny and entertaining ! But in GTA, and in many more games these days, it feels unnecessary and overdone. GTA's satire is understandable, but in other games its totally unnecessary.

Brutal legend and Prey relaised there are people who prefer to turn them off , they provided the option, most games don't. This si th eonly thing that turns me off from a game, unnecessary swearing.
I would enjoy GTA much more if people there would talk like people, not like a heap of garbage ! But then its GTA, it exactly makes fun of that and so has it in heaps. Every character is dysfunctional and weird.

Don't wish to derail the thread,I just said I wished there was an option like in BL and Prey, to add beeps. I, personally, would enjoy it more and concentrate on the fun gameplay.

The violence in these games should default a XXX rating and those that sell these games to non adults should be punished with heavy fines. This includes the swearing. Why we accept that kids plays games with violence like we see in the GTA series is beyond me.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

R* said it was the PS3 version. Looked pretty damn impressive for an open world, current gen game.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69149056&postcount=1585

I dunno, my guess would be show the PC version for that bit of extra polish always. Parts of it look next gen quality to me. It def looks a bit too polished to be PS360 to me.

Well Rockstar did a clear post saying it was captured on PS3. While it's sure impressive as hell for current gen it's not nextgen-looking. Watch the any of the trailers then look at any gameplay from Watchdogs or The Division, the difference in resolution, textures, poly counts, lighting and shadows is night and day.

But it bodes well for GTA IV on nextgen

 

[orangpelupa]

for me the violence on GTA is for my own immersion even though i rarely use it. I just happy to know that i can hit people with car. I rarely hit people with car on GTA deliberately (except on mission).

Its been like that for me with any other open world game.
Skyrim, i can steal, but i dont want to steal except when on special quest. I just happy to know that i can steal.

if GTA V comes to PC, the first mod i will search are "Police catch you if broke red light" and ability to pay on the spot

EDIT:
with so many things i can do, it make the game feels OPEN. Not funnelled.

 

[poopypoo]

Agreed, orangelupa. I love the violent options of GTA but get bored of them quickly. I find it far more challenging to drive as insanely as possible without getting caught breaking any rules, and spend the vast majority of my time with each GTA doing that. I love keeping a hyperactive lookout for pigs, braking early, stopping at the occasional red light, doing big jumps and getting through missions in record time all together. It's way more fun than just doing the missions too sloppily. At the end of the day, I'm too accurate with a gun to have much difficulty before 4 police stars, so I try to avoid gunplay whenever possible.

 

[itch]

I'm assuming they have a better mechanism for retaining cars if players are going to be encouraged to spend a lot on customisations. There was also talk of cars being left in the street going to the impound and having to pay a fine to retrieve it.

I always wished you could install a tracking device in your car so if it disappears you could track it down and get it back.

I really hope they fixed the phenomenon where, when you find a rare car and drive around in it, every other car is the same as yours. That was just nuts.

Me too! If not this gen hopefully next gen will fix this with all the memory we're getting. It would be great if they can cache all the car models in memory.

 

[milk]

However good their writing might get in the future, GTA has an image which R* won't change. Abuses will always be in and most prbly porn will follow.

Pornographic material would also be right at home in a GTA game and I wouldn't consider its inclusion excessive, out of place if done the way swearing is. Its another constant part of the life of their characters. If swearing makes your years bleed, then a game about dirty american criminals just isn't for you. I find adding bleeping to specific skatological and sexual words very superficial. "Go f....... yourself you c..... sucking mother f...." ( a perfectly likely sentece to come out of the mouth a criminal in real life L.A. ) How does that change anything? You listen to the word in your head anyways.
As for kids playing, I think it's fine as long ans parents now they are doing and talk about it properly. I remember I watched clockwork orange when I was 11 and it did me more good than harm. It was what got me interested in cinema and literature, as I latter wen on to read the book few years later. The thing is, my parents watched it with me, and they payed close attention to what I was getting out of it, and how it was influencing me, giving wise insight when relevant.

 

[Bigduo209]

Me too! If not this gen hopefully next gen will fix this with all the memory we're getting. It would be great if they can cache all the car models in memory.

Really? I thought that was a feature designed to steal similar car models in case you somehow lose the one you were originally driving. It was good for quick getaways, or having a rare car being damaged (on the verge of exploding) with no repair points nearby.

I'd be fine if they eliminated this approach in exchange for better retaining the cars you own. And maybe created some more repair points.

 

[itch]

I'd be fine if they eliminated this approach in exchange for better retaining the cars you own. And maybe created some more repair points.

I always assumed it was a memory limitation. But yeah, your car ought to stay where you parked it. I hope to see a more persistent world next gen too.

 

[Scott_Arm]

Multiplayer vid.

Who needs next gen?

 

[orangpelupa]

wow! cant wait to buy the PC version

it was crazy fun on GTA San Andreas Online. And from the trailer, seems this is incorporated all GTA SA Online features and expand it by A LOT!.

wow

 

[DrJay24]

You might be waiting a long time, maybe forever. I'd love to play RDR on the PC too.