I guess they are simply to big to fit the new case.
Xbox 360 slim hardware thread
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Because these are "internal" and the previous were "external" being enclosed in an "outside" case addon
It doesnt appear that they will sell this form factor without a HD for the forseeable future, so being able to plug in your old one wouldnt seem to be a popular use-case. They are selling HD transfer cables for $20 at launch (glad i kept my old one) but these wont require a software DVD anymore, the transfer software will be built in to the OS.
That, and as the others have said, i'm sure it wouldve been too much of a compromise to the design by allowing it to fit.
Yep. Unless you're streaming multiple HD streams from a NAS, 100 Mbit is good enough for any home content. Gigabit's only nice if you're going over lots of content.
Just some theories here, but with the size they were targeting, I'm sure it would be too big and I bet they didn't want the big bulge sticking out of it. Plus,it gives MS a chance to totally redesign the look & get away from any bad stigmas the old design might of had.
Some people have wondered why MS abandoned alot of potential accessory revenues(wireless, hard drive), but I think they will make way more back on Kinect add-ons. Plus, they still have a lot of other accessories: MS Points, Gold subscriptions, controllers, chargers/battery packs, headsets, chatpads, USB Sansa drives & HDMI cables.
Tommy McClain
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I for one don't mind bigger power bricks. At least if designed properly they can last ages. Not like those small and nice but unreliable laptop adapters.
I really can't wait for Kinetic to hit the market though!
Will it be more precise to use your imagined steering wheel or pad to race in Forza III? Yes, it will support Kinetic, just watch today's Spotlight on XBOX Live
I really can't wait for Kinetic to hit the market though!
Will it be more precise to use your imagined steering wheel or pad to race in Forza III? Yes, it will support Kinetic, just watch today's Spotlight on XBOX Live
Im looking forward to the tear downs, decibel readings and kilawatt unscientific testing. If anyone sees any of that would you please share?
In all I think the console looks pretty good, its a fairly realistic size given the fact they obviously went for noise rather than outright size reductions. I wonder if they have finally isolated the drive because I heard that the thing is quiet even when playing a disc based game!?!
In all I think the console looks pretty good, its a fairly realistic size given the fact they obviously went for noise rather than outright size reductions. I wonder if they have finally isolated the drive because I heard that the thing is quiet even when playing a disc based game!?!
This is probably going to be a common mistake, one I find myself typing, but it's not Kinetic; it's Kinect, as in connect.
I bloody well hope they have because the current 360 drive is infuriatingly noisy due to sending disc vibrations straight into the plastic casing, making the whole thing act like a big resonance chamber, although with a quarter TB HDD as standard, you can just - ha ha* - install the whole disc, so it's probably not as big an issue as it was when 360 HDDs were teensy-tiny.
Regarding the kitenic, or kixentic or connexit or whatever...the name's friggin stoopid. Who the hell picked it???
I just don't get it, it's phonetically TAILOR-MADE to be confused with something else.The hardware itself looks.......HUGE. Wow. I thought it would be much smaller, but from the pix I've seen it looks almost the size of a wiimote! A little thinner, and a little shorter, but not much difference. I wonder how heavy it is, I figure the base's probably a massive lump of metal. Anyway, I like heavy hardware. Gives a give impression of quality.
* = mocking taunt towards those in the community who in turn mocked PS3 games that require HDD installs.
Ouch!
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-10-new-xbox-same-old-disc-destroying-problems-176508.phtml
Not that you would move the console but still.
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-10-new-xbox-same-old-disc-destroying-problems-176508.phtml
Not that you would move the console but still.
Ike Turner
Veteran
There's friggin sticker on the device saying that it shouldn't be moved and the dude did it. How is that Microsoft's fault? Breaking news: Man dies by crashing his car because he ran a red light. I guess it's the gouvernement fault? The mayor maybe? Bush? Obama? Or the driver's dumb ass?
Its a big big improvement from what I hear. Great for places like Europe and Japan where the living rooms are smaller, the Americans don't hear it because its a cultural norm to sit about 30 feet away!
@ ha ha: I use a 60GB and that works fine. 250GB is over the hill overkill.
Regarding the kitenic, or kixentic or connexit or whatever...the name's friggin stoopid. Who the hell picked it???
Its Kinect! Actually I like the name as it evokes what the nature of the interface is about, kinetic + connection and its immediately obvious like the name 'Wii'. Im also very pleased they are getting rid of the Arcade and Elite names. I think they are counter productive for normal people, I suspect some people are either confused or put off by the name 'Elite'.
The hardware itself looks.......HUGE. Wow. I thought it would be much smaller, but from the pix I've seen it looks almost the size of a wiimote! A little thinner, and a little shorter, but not much difference. I wonder how heavy it is, I figure the base's probably a massive lump of metal. Anyway, I like heavy hardware. Gives a give impression of quality.
I never thought of this... Maybe its to make the fat chicks feel better about themselves?
Anyway it seems to do its job but I have no fricken clue as to why the base needs to be motorised unless they intend to sell it to the merchant navy as entertainment. Anyway it seems to do its job but I have no fricken clue as to why the base needs to be motorised unless they intend to sell it to the merchant navy as entertainment.
During the briefing it was explained that one of the reasons for the tilt was to "keep it simple" and allow for tracking of the user in order to keep them in middle of the frame, like during the Video Kinect demo. I also believe it also helps because of all the different type of environments it will be in. It probably does an automatic calibration. So you don't have to worry about whether it's on top of your TV, below your TV or off center etc.
Tommy McClain
The motorized stand makes sense methinks if for nothing else from a pure convenience standpoint. You don't have to spend much, if any effort setting it up, and it won't fail to perform (as often anyway) if it can follow your movements to some extent. Hopefully the mechanism won't be prone to seizure either.
I still wonder why the camera hardware is so bloody big though - even accounting for the motor mechanism it's way bigger than it really needs to be. Apparantly it's just a dumb camera device with no internal processing, so there doesn't need to be room for a lot of additional circuitry inside. Even the array mic shouldn't need to be that wide - the one in Sony's pseye isn't as wide, and it works great. Very nice sound quality from it. Oh well. I guess part of it is that american "bigger is better" mentality that drove the design philosophy of the ginormous original xbox.
Regarding scratchy disks - dunno if there's really any way to avoid this with DVD tech. If the lens has to be so close to the disk that the two almost touch in order to read it, then this will happen if you disturb the drive. Perhaps MS could have put some teflon pads around the lens to provide some protection, but that would require even greater customization of the drive hardware = higher prices. Hardware vendors never like that.
Don't this very same thing happen if you flip a PS3 from vertical to horizontal while it's reading a game disc?
I still wonder why the camera hardware is so bloody big though - even accounting for the motor mechanism it's way bigger than it really needs to be. Apparantly it's just a dumb camera device with no internal processing, so there doesn't need to be room for a lot of additional circuitry inside. Even the array mic shouldn't need to be that wide - the one in Sony's pseye isn't as wide, and it works great. Very nice sound quality from it. Oh well. I guess part of it is that american "bigger is better" mentality that drove the design philosophy of the ginormous original xbox.
Regarding scratchy disks - dunno if there's really any way to avoid this with DVD tech. If the lens has to be so close to the disk that the two almost touch in order to read it, then this will happen if you disturb the drive. Perhaps MS could have put some teflon pads around the lens to provide some protection, but that would require even greater customization of the drive hardware = higher prices. Hardware vendors never like that.
Don't this very same thing happen if you flip a PS3 from vertical to horizontal while it's reading a game disc?
That happens with my current Arcade. My two year came out of no where and killed my RE5...lol
Yeah, it seems a good idea. Although how much rotation does it have? You'll need a fair bit of space behind it if it rotates to any significant amount.The motorized stand makes sense methinks if for nothing else from a pure convenience standpoint. You don't have to spend much, if any effort setting it up, and it won't fail to perform (as often anyway) if it can follow your movements to some extent. Hopefully the mechanism won't be prone to seizure either.
I can only guess it's that. Sony's mic is small, but I can't say I've ever experienced any sound selection/noise cancellation from it. Certainly using it for voice chat, it transmits every sound and not just the player. A wider mic array would make the timing differences more pronounced which perhaps leads to better (or even just working. Has anyone known of noise cancellation with PSEye?) sound isolation.
Silent_Buddha
Legend
Damn, just realized MS is ending the BING shopping discount promotion. I hope these are in stock when I get back to the states, I think I'll have a 1 week window to order one before the promotion ends. Argh.
Now that I'm finally replacing my launch 360, I'm getting kind of misty eyed and nostalgic thinking about it.
Regards,
SB
Now that I'm finally replacing my launch 360, I'm getting kind of misty eyed and nostalgic thinking about it.
Regards,
SB
I see the new model xbox is currently #1 at amazon
xbox should have a very good june NPD
xbox should have a very good june NPD
OK I agree you shouldnt move a machine with a spinning disc, but what about discman's, car CD players etc they seem to work reasonably well, so its certainly possible to have a machine that is able to be moved.