PlayTV info
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Really, at the same time, how is that possible?
Seriously this is a feature, that will make my PS3 much more useful, if they make it accessable through the PSP for scrolling recorded content etc. while someone else is watching some other stuff, it may trigger me to get a PSP as well.
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New PlayTV SKU?
Just wondering if anybody see's the possibility of Sony making the PlayTV hardware a part of the PS3, parhaps as part of a future SKU?
I note that Sony are releasing the PlayTV in Jan/Feb next year and the fact that by then I would imagine the 60GB SKU will no longer be for sale in Europe. Could this leave a gap for a more expensive Playstation3 version complete with 80GB HD and the PlayTV hardware built in?
Just wondering if anybody see's the possibility of Sony making the PlayTV hardware a part of the PS3, parhaps as part of a future SKU?
I note that Sony are releasing the PlayTV in Jan/Feb next year and the fact that by then I would imagine the 60GB SKU will no longer be for sale in Europe. Could this leave a gap for a more expensive Playstation3 version complete with 80GB HD and the PlayTV hardware built in?
Here's the latest official demo/info vid...
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Shame the box is such a size, and not a diddy-little USB device. And the serious problem with this device is price - £100. You can get cheaper PVR's with 80GBs that don't need a PS3 to run them.
One of my considerations for getting a PS3 was this TV tuner to watch TV on my monitor, as my existing TV's audio is dying (I run it through a guitar amp to be able to hear it!) and the VCR is a bit hokey. A £350 console + PVR + widgety-knick-knack is good value. A £300 console + £100 separate tuner to run on a shared 40GB drive isn't. And that's not really factoring in the price of a monitor adaptor. Sony missed the trick here IMO.
I guess the upside of this is the price of PS3 may well have dropped by the time the must-have LBP comes out, and I'll just ignore TV. Not that I watch much anyway.
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Shame the box is such a size, and not a diddy-little USB device. And the serious problem with this device is price - £100. You can get cheaper PVR's with 80GBs that don't need a PS3 to run them.
One of my considerations for getting a PS3 was this TV tuner to watch TV on my monitor, as my existing TV's audio is dying (I run it through a guitar amp to be able to hear it!) and the VCR is a bit hokey. A £350 console + PVR + widgety-knick-knack is good value. A £300 console + £100 separate tuner to run on a shared 40GB drive isn't. And that's not really factoring in the price of a monitor adaptor. Sony missed the trick here IMO.
I guess the upside of this is the price of PS3 may well have dropped by the time the must-have LBP comes out, and I'll just ignore TV. Not that I watch much anyway.
Needs DVB-T something that doesnt exist in USA yet I think
I'd love to know where you shop. As far as I know the only HD PVR in the UK is the Sky HD box which costs over £200.
Maybe. But it is a two tuner device though, the 40GB disc is very easily and cheaply upgradeable, it supports PSP remote play, and I'm fairly convinced that other cheaper PVR devices don't have the hardware oomph of the PS3, which seems to be very well equipped hardware wise to make this a really smooth experience. EDIT: and yes, HD of course.
I don't think this is coming to the US in this form by the way, simply because this is very specific to the UK market. The US market is more likely to want IP based TV services. I'm sure though that having developed the software interface, they'll offer PlayTV on a various number of platforms, be it IP TV, digital receivers over cable, arials, and what not.
Woohoo. I'll be able to watch the one HD channel on freeview... A USB TV tuner for the PC can be got for £25. According to these people, an HDTV tuner can be got for £30. Dual HDTV tuners for a service that doesn't exist and isn't going to be rolled out for ages and will have lousy compression no doubt to boot doesn't to me sound like £100 worth of value. Plus fo rmost people their TV already has a tuner built in. If you want to video one thing and watch another, switch the TV to a different channel. 'Over spec'd and over priced' is the phrase that comes to mind.
You're talking a very minor niche market though. Yes, PS3's PlayTV device is the best way to get dual-channel HD recording and stream it over the internet to your PSP...but how big a market is that? And the hardware oomph I've already paid for in getting the PS3. I thought the tuner would be a bare-minimum sort of device and let the PS3's innards take care of all the fancy stuff. A cheap tuner and recorder so your PS3 can fill another role in the bedroom/dorm seems far more viable to me.
I payed £60 for a wifi addition to my 360 and adding a HD-DVD drive would have been even more. Getting PVR functionality for a mere £100 on top of everything I got out of the box is bountiful in comparison!
From "those people"
- Record to disk and playback with DVD quality (720x576 MPEG-2 format)
It may support HD, but it certainly doesn't record it by the looks of things.
Anyway, PVR is not something I'm interested in at all, there's never anything that important on TV.
It seems expensive, but then I look at a Sky HD box and it costs £150 more than a normal Sky + box so I think there is more to this "HD" PVR business than you suggest. Also when it was announced they said it would cost between "$135 and $200" so i would wait to see if it's really that expesnive myself.
Everyone will have there own thoughts on it, but to suggest it's over spec'ed and over priced just because there are limited "over the air" HD channels is only really a concern if you believe that's always going to be the case.
I don't know about anyone else, but give me something with more functions than I think I need and I will soon find it hard to live without it.
I believe it's gonna be the case over PS3's lifespan, if not indefinitely due to the limited capacity of the airwaves. The TV bodies have decided more channels is better than fewer, higher-quality channels. Just found an article on this topic. We'll have maybe 3 or 4 HD channels by end of 2009 and no more after that by my guessing.
I'm sure that's true. But I'd rather have the thing that does the job wanted for the price wanted, rather than adds on extra features that I could live without and not ask a higher price. If we had a choice of two systems I wouldn't grumble, but if you're in need of a basic car to get from A to B, and the only one being sold you has all the fancy extras at over twice the price you're budgeted for, would you be happy with the entry price?
And the daft part here is the product is just plain uncompetitive. For £100 I can get a TV tuner for PS3 that allows recording and watching of two independent channels, right? For ~£100 I can get a separate PVR with tuners that can do the same and also let me run the PS3 for games or Folding or whatever. You get less use from the PS3 tuner than a standalone box! You don't even get a smaller package with PS3 because the tuner is large enough to mess up shelf space, and won't even sit on top of the PS3 itself! I just don't see the reasoning for this choice of product. If PS3 is to be established the premier media hub, adding TV functions as cheaply as possible has to be the order of the day, making up for the fact that out of the box the PS3 couldn't handle every media service.
Some more stuff:
rumors on price and date of release: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=93446
on DRM / recordings: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=93416
Summary:
- price and date not confirmed, Eurogamer says "our (informed) guess is later than March, and lower than 99GB price point" (stress mine)
- you can do whatever you like with the saved recordings:
That's just what I told my boss 6 years ago when he asked about copy-protection in our software (seriously). Glad this philosophy is making a return, at least for this kind of thing (not to mention mp3 music downloads)
rumors on price and date of release: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=93446
on DRM / recordings: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=93416
Summary:
- price and date not confirmed, Eurogamer says "our (informed) guess is later than March, and lower than 99GB price point" (stress mine)
- you can do whatever you like with the saved recordings:
That's just what I told my boss 6 years ago when he asked about copy-protection in our software (seriously). Glad this philosophy is making a return, at least for this kind of thing (not to mention mp3 music downloads)
I do kinda have to ask "why MPEG-2?" though.
Most commonly supported format I guess.
