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There's a lot of truth to this. And speaking from personal experience, I had a helluva time with certain professors in the English dept. because I was, gasp!, too conservative in my thinking for them.
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You're too conservative for them, John? Damn..
Aren't you at least a centrist? Personally, I think that's what schools should try to be.. central.. so that students can form their own opinions. While I'm something of a righty, I know that both sides have their redeeming qualities and that we need to let the younger generation (like, uh, myself) decide what they want to think.. instead of shoving messages of things like ultra-tolerance down our throats. It's too bad that many colleges are far-left so that there can't be a balance, and we have Harvard students taking their clothes off in public to get their extremist/idiotic opinions across.
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I like to think I'm fairly moderate, but it depends on the issue. I'm, however, very liberal on most social issues (pro gay marriage, for example), yet I'm also all for the death penalty and reducing, if not removing, many excessive social programs (lifelong welfare recipients. . .the idea that the wages of my labor are more heavily taxed so that others can sit back and do absolutely nothing productive with their lives is ludicrous). I hate affirmative action and see its results every day at work. I'm for smaller, less intrusive government.
I remember walking into a English class right after a SR-71 flew over campus to land at WPAFB. The professor started the class by asking if everyone noticed the bomber. I interrupted him by stating that the SR-71 was a high-altitude surveillance plane and isn't designed to carry ordinance of any kind. Undeterred, he launched into a rant about the amount of money the government spends researching, developing, and manufacturing means of killing human beings while he couldn't get a small grant for his own research. |
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I do not recall the SR-71 being a bomber.
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Yeah, this is one of the main issues with conservatives John. It all boils back to negative rights vs positive rights. It is an inflammatory issue, not only on US campuses. The trend left on university campuses across NA is not a positive development IMHO. It seems blatantly obvious that these institutions of "higher learning" are not quite what they used to be in terms of being tolerant to a wider variety of perspective and open minded critique, this is ironic.
This is a fairly complex matter but basically it boils down to equal outcomes vs equal treatment. Ether way there is injustice but which is a greater one? Personally I see AA type programs as form of discrimination embraced by the state and this is particularly unjust to tax-paying citizens of a particular demographic whom ever they may be. These programs might have had a place in the system at one point in time but I don't think that they are appropriate any longer. The dilemma is that after these bureaucracies are in place to support these programs is that they will continue to find reasons for the continuance of them, despite changes within society that it may relegate the necessity of them to null and void. When it comes time to dismantle such programs it is difficult to deprogram its preponderates.. The injustice is that these programs are still in place now… when they need not be.
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well John, that is when you need to put English professors and their ilk in their place. Perhaps if they had more meaningful careers their "research" may be worth something to some one.
I absolutely loathe english professors. I find they to be haughty bunch who completely overstate their worth in education. Take for instance my eldest sister who looks down on the legal profession. Question: "How do you deal with knowing some day you will be a part of ruining peoples lives as a criminal lawyer? How do you cope with this?" My Reply: "Probably the same way you do when examining your pay check..." |
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I remeber this popping up a while ago over at my residence (nvnews). While the author of the above humoungus paragraph certainly has a taste for the over exadurative speech, the points made do have a semblence of truth here in the UK too.
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Can't stop the violence I love it, No-one's immune you can't stop it. Random hate, when I'm lashing out at you, it's a way of life. |
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You are when you were born.
More and more colleges are liberal minded. The transition from people of the "greatest generation" passed into the hippie generation and now into the liberal generation. I got into more arguments with teachers under 50 years old about current events than anyone older. Many teachers now dont want to share your view. Although there are exceptions. I love hearing students and people under 20 years old talking politics.... they rarely have any idea of what really goes on. English teachers are the worst, I had one that was just arrogant. She told me an essay I wrote wasn't going to be controversial enough. This paper was on Why the IRA still refuses to lay down its arms... (well thought out paper, my other teachers loved it, but not her, I got a C on it!!) My next english teacher was a Vietnam Vet who had long hair and loved novels. Got an easy A in that class since he was actually open minded. |
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Yeah, in university (liberal arts program) I had a number of teachers that only gave out A's if you regurgitated what they said to the T. Not much room there for outside perspectives or for that matter being "open minded". The left wing political correctness bias is so obvious and overwhelming that it stifles the learning process.
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I've had a series of radical left wing english professors one of whom actually engaged in a shouting match with me and another student (concerning violence on/in tv/video games and its impact on society "Do you watch television or play video games Sir?" He replied angrily "NO!" "Sir, would you characterize your current behavior as aggressive or violent?" this statement was of coarse accompanied by laughter. Of course the man knew what my earlier implications were (that aggression has a hereditarian and enviromental-developmental counterpart). |
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There are exceptions,
but the vast majority just say what they hear and rarely do any research on their own. |
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It is so true that most simply repeat what they hear from assumed legitimate sources. It isn't ironic or anything but the matter is not really delimited by age. I know plenty of older characters that really have no clue about things and simply work away at things they do know. That said I am not sure what prerequisites a person might have in the way of temperament that compels them to look into political matters. I think maturity does help. Simply being exposed to the material isn't an indication ether as I know plenty of the students I sat in class with were not always enthralled by subject matter. These sorts are more interested in discussing the hockey game or what happened on WWF. I am sure there are plenty here who know what the heck I am talking about. My eyes glaze over at the first whisper of wrestling details.
Anyhow, I don't even know how I got sucked into this but whatever... My 2 cents?
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