[Laa-Yosh]

Seems like the first shots are out:

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/e3/doom1_frame.html

Impressive, as expected :)

[bystander]

It looks absolutely amazing, hard to believe those are actually in game shots!

[Kristof]

Lets collects the screenies here :

[Laa-Yosh]

It's interesting, that two of the images seems to be ones that were presented on QuakeCon 2001, that were also leaked by the german Gamestar mag. Since the resolution of the other shots is the same, they might also be almost a year old. A logical conclusion would be that ID or Activision have newer, high-res shots available - if only they'd post them...

[Kristof]

High Rez Versions :

[JF_Aidan_Pryde]

Doom3 looks so... ID. :P

Serioulsy though, they really should get a few colourful artist or some guys from Irrational Games.

[Laa-Yosh]

Help! I think I'm melting... ;)

Well, after reading about the technology last year, I expected something like this, but it's still amazing. You really have to wonder what Carmack could create 10 years from now...

[Matt Burris]

JF_Aidan_Pryde:

How many military bases do you know have purple or orange walls? I don't know why people always complain about id's games being brown or grey (with the exception for Quake 2 which had an overabundance of colored lightings, due to its newness). It fits the theme of the game, and brown/grey is what a majority of what all buildings are made of.

Personally I find the color to be just perfect for the game, it looks scary enough.

[psurge]

Well they look really good

And I'd really need to see more shots to compare, but take a look at these shots of Everquest2...

http://avault.com/news/avscreenshots...=5222002-34312

http://avault.com/news/avscreenshots...=5222002-34312

http://www.gamespy.com/e32002/image....2/pc/eq2/6.jpg

http://www.gamespy.com/e32002/image....2/pc/eq2/1.jpg

http://www.gamespy.com/e32002/image....2/pc/eq2/3.jpg

IMHO these games have a very similar look (apart from the graphical theme).

Serge

[Matt Burris]

A video released for you to check out at WaitPlanet: http://www.fileplanet.com/index.asp?...645&file=88339

Or maybe not... rumors is that this isn't the 11 minute video promised...

[bystander]

Well FilePlanet says the video is only 7 minutes long.

Mind you the waiting times at FilePlanet have skyrocketed. The average wait to download a file seems to be 2 hours when I looked.

[JF_Aidan_Pryde]

Matt,

I know DOOM3 is aiming for the AvP, dirty and critty look.
It does that quite well. But that is not the only way you get "horror" expressed in.

I am really comparing it to System Shock2. That game had 180 polygon models but what I'd still call innovative graphics; It's how the artists did the levels. And they had great texture art.

And oh yeah, System Shock2 is probably scarier.

[muted]

Doom was apparently shown running on a 2.2Ghz system using some sort of ATI graphics card

ok , i didn't say that ..

Gamespot did ( so it's probably not true )

but i'd like to know what it was running on exactly !

[DemoCoder]

Of course, the solution is to just pay for a personal server on fileplanet. I did this awhile ago and its well worth it. A bunch of friends and I share it. Almost every single time I want to download anything on the internet, I go there and I am always guaraneted a 250kilobyte/sec transfer rate. Paying them to basically mirror everything and provide a high bandwidth download is worth it (if you have broadband)

[Humus]

I have put up a mirror on my server:

http://esprit.campus.luth.se/~humus/..._3_bts_big.zip

Please be kind to the server and don't post the link all over the place in other forums.

[Gollum]

Just watched the vid, quite cool, but I'd really like to see that 11 minute game vid instead of the pixelated Doom 1+2 footage...
What you get to see of the new Doom looks quite promising indeed. Not only the engine but the design too, which I find positively surprising, at least for an id game, lots of grey but less brown that Q3A at least. Hard to imagine its supposed to run well on todays hardware tho.

What I found interesting too, that after all the talk about primarily using Maya for the game, in this video you mostly get to see LightWave3D Modeler "behind the scenes". Guess its lightwave for modeling and Maya for animation then eh? Just had to bring it up, I'm a proud LightWave user so sue me, hehe...

[Dave Glue]

I snagged it off Fileplanet, and it definitely does have many scenes of Doom3. The problem? It was recorded at 5 frames per second . That's right folks, this 100mb Quicktime file runs at 5fps - so forget analyzing the animation quality. Yeesh!

Doom3 is unlike other previews I've seen, where it looks incredible in small shots, until you see it blown up. Doom3 is the opposite, the larger shots I see, the more in-game footage, the more detail is obvious. The snippets in this video do show that it truly will be something special. I've seen many impressive shots from E3, but no title on the console or PC approaches this in preventing a realistic graphical experience. The only thing that could compare is Resident Evil for the gamecube, the difference is this is completely real-time.

[Doomtrooper]

Thx Humus for the download

[noko]

Ditto also Humus .

[JavaJones]

While these are highly impressive shots (looking near pre-rendered in some parts) and while I certainly don't intend to take away from what Carmack and Co. have done, I think they've relied too heavily on the high poly source model, low poly in game model trick. Or rather I think it's balanced a bit too heavily towards low poly in game models. I think the in game poly count (for characters mostly) should be doubled if possible.

I don't know if anyone else noticed it, but the polys are pretty obvious, even those not on silhouette edges. That's somewhat dissapointing. Frankly EQ 2, though it doesn't look as impressive overall, seems to handle the characters in a bit more balanced way. The overall first impression isn't as striking, but further examination of EQ2 doesn't reveal surprisingly low poly models as Doom 3 seems to.

None the less the high rez shots are pretty awesome, particularly the environments IMO. They look almost pre-rendered. Can't wait for a Doom 3 Test.

- JavaJones

[Althornin]

Originally Posted by JavaJones

While these are highly impressive shots (looking near pre-rendered in some parts) and while I certainly don't intend to take away from what Carmack and Co. have done, I think they've relied too heavily on the high poly source model, low poly in game model trick. Or rather I think it's balanced a bit too heavily towards low poly in game models. I think the in game poly count (for characters mostly) should be doubled if possible.

I don't know if anyone else noticed it, but the polys are pretty obvious, even those not on silhouette edges.s

Agree with you on this one.
The models look like they could do with some TruForm/ tesselation of some kind.
But the lighting is amazing!

[John Reynolds]

Maybe it's just me, but the most impressive aspect of those shots is the way the blood is smeared across the bathroom floor.

[Jerry Cornelius]

Thanks a lot for the download Humus.

Looks good and creepy like Quake 1 .

[V3]

An interview with JC on Doom 3

http://www.gamers.com/news/1156460

JC: The rendering engine is still my primary focus, and it has been a lot more interesting on this project than the last couple ones. At the fundamental level, the basic rendering paradigm hasn't really changed much in the industry since the original Quake-light mapped worlds and shaded characters. I am quite confident that the new Doom paradigm of discrete, projected lights, full-time bump mapping, and global unification of light-surface interaction will become the new standard. Once you experience the consistency of the Doom world, other games start to feel more like puppet shows.

What is full-time bump mapping ?

[Humus]

He probably means that everything is bumpmapped, not just some part for a certain effect or so.