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Old 06-Jun-2012, 05:13   #1
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 05:15   #2
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 05:21   #3
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Wow, just watched the real time tech demo!
Cool, bring it on
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 05:40   #4
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Beyond amazing! Bring on the Next Gen. Silence dissenters who think people won't be able to tell the difference!
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 05:45   #5
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Something something diminishing returns.
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 06:01   #6
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Rising developement cost with a factor 100 lalala.
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 06:15   #7
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Yup, looks good.
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 06:46   #8
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Beyond amazing! Bring on the Next Gen. Silence dissenters who think people won't be able to tell the difference!
Ceiling broken. I'm ready to jump in.
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 08:17   #9
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This is exactly the kinda leap that'll make people run out and buy new consoles. This is the most impressive next-gen teaser I've seen thus far, and that includes Star Wars 1313.

I also get the impression that particles are the new shiznit feature next gen.

EDIT: Assuming that's the target for Durango and Orbis games, I'm doubtful of Wii U ports.
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 09:11   #10
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That's real time? Running on what, ten 680's?
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 09:37   #11
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PS4 Exclusive?

Hmmm i am getting Killzone vibes.. fuck it.. looks like true next gen!, i am now officially optimistic about next gen and all doubters can stay on this gen..
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 09:58   #12
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Where is it written that this is Durango/Orbis?

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Starting already, are we?

Anyways, non gameplay cutscenes never impress me, and this certainly doesn't buck the trend. I dont care how impressive a cutscene is.
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 10:03   #13
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As stated by Square Enix this simply an R&D real-time tech demo running on a high end PC..
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 10:24   #14
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Oh come on, it's really good but nothing amazing, there's aliasing everywhere, including on texture, on specular...
So it's real time ;p
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 10:52   #15
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I still see pixies!!! this no better!!!

Seriously tho, how will they call nextgen to differentiate - highdef is already taken by this gen
But yeah, this looks way better than what Epic had shown as next gen demo, really big scale as well.
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 11:04   #16
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Starting already, are we?
How ironic
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 11:24   #17
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I still see pixies!!! this no better!!!

Seriously tho, how will they call nextgen to differentiate - highdef is already taken by this gen
But yeah, this looks way better than what Epic had shown as next gen demo, really big scale as well.
Square has so much CGI animation talent to draw on it's not surprising this blows away Epic tech demos in terms of art and storytelling.
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 11:26   #18
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Well I hope UE 4 will be a lot more impressive than this (and even that small UE4 gif already is)
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 13:56   #19
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Those facial expressions and facial detail are mindblowing!
Cloth animation too
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 13:56   #20
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How much would it raise cost, gfx of this qualitity?
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 14:11   #21
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So.. this means PS4 will use cell 2.0 after all?

I guess all the rumors about low end, low powered X86 hardware combined with simple direct x GPU's were false?

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Well I hope UE 4 will be a lot more impressive than this (and even that small UE4 gif already is)
please show me the UE4 gif.

The UE3.5 demo (Samarian) used fake lighting in a lot of places. I hope UE4 is a lot less "smoke and mirrors"
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The actual presentation (you can see them manipulating the demo in realtime)
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 14:49   #23
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I honestly don't think the actual gameplay would look as smooth, detailed and insanely detailed as what's shown here. I mean dear lord this can be considered Avatar quality in many instances. If PS4 really can pump out graphics like those then all the bullSh&t spec of a 7670 can now be disregarded.
But yeah, this is true nextgen alright, much better than what's shown of UE4.
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 15:24   #24
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I honestly don't think the actual gameplay would look as smooth, detailed and insanely detailed as what's shown here. I mean dear lord this can be considered Avatar quality in many instances. If PS4 really can pump out graphics like those then all the bullSh&t spec of a 7670 can now be disregarded.
But yeah, this is true nextgen alright, much better than what's shown of UE4.
I fully agree. Also it would take YEARS to fill up the environments with kind of detail, although square has the power to do so; they might import the city of Spirits Within and call it a day

UE4 has not shown that much, but the Samaritan demo was downright disappointing, imo. it had to do with the art direction (really terrible character model) and the technology itself (the point were a robot shines a bright beam of light; you can see that it is made of 2d planes or some shit). Given that even on PC UE3 never had real shadows, judging from the latest batman or mass effect I expect UE4 to be a lightweight, smoke and mirrors engine, which provides a next gen look at really low costs and processing power.
This on the other hand.. it's like a realtime Maya renderer or something. Aside from some aliasing this looks like it took 100hs of hours to render on a single pc

holy mother: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9xhFpuIMX4
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Old 06-Jun-2012, 15:46   #25
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Anyways, non gameplay cutscenes never impress me, and this certainly doesn't buck the trend. I dont care how impressive a cutscene is.
The samaritan demo was a cutscene, and so are the UE4 demos.

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Well I hope UE 4 will be a lot more impressive than this (and even that small UE4 gif already is)
The hair and cloth rendering in this seems to be a step above what we've seen in the Samaritan footage. Environments are better than the ones in the UE4 demo, and the animation is spectacular. I don't see any deficit compared to UE4.
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