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http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030814/145156_1.html
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hmmm, interesting. However like last time, the day before annoucing xbox, MS switched companies. They also reserve the right to back out, so unless hardware shows up with an ATI chip in it, then I'd wait to see if this changes. However, it's still very good news for ATI...
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ha! I was still hoping for a Rendition part
So does this mean that ATI will power both Xbox2 and GC2. Or is GC2 not officially announced and Nintendo could still go with someone else? Nintendo still had its technology agreement with ATI, but they do not mention what it is for. But, you would have to think it could only be for 1 of 2 products, their next console, or a new GameBoy. |
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That's a stunner. I know that nVidia and MS weren't exactly on great terms, but I didn't expect this. Where does this leave Nintendo?
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Well I'll be!
Now that ATI has turned to the dark side too, I can't buy products from them either... I guess that leaves me only one choice, 3dlaps. It's going to be interesting to see how this turns out, with both Nintendo and microsoft getting work done by the same company. Maybe they will make two hermetically sealed teams to avoid being accused by either part of favouring the other..? But that would seem a bit daft and counterproductive. Possibly the best solution would be to just make one VPU, and the let ms and Nintendo chose the CPU themselves. That way they could focus all their resources on making the best possible design. But with microsoft in the mix we know that's not going to happen. |
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Hmm..I wonder if ATI and MS is going the eDRAM route for Xbox Next.
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By the way, how are they going to achieve 100% backward compatibility? They do have direct-x, but that doesn't guarantee anything.
I guess this means that ms is never going to let developers touch the metal on the current xbox? |
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Nvidia... soon.... R.I.P....
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> However like last time, the day before annoucing xbox, MS switched > companies. Gigapixel was never officially announced as a partner. This is a done deal. Ozymandis: > Where does this leave Nintendo? With the better team Squeak: > By the way, how are they going to achieve 100% backward > compatibility? I'm not so sure they will implement support for Xbox 1 titles but if they do it will be through the drivers and I doubt it would've been any different had they gone with Nvidia. The only reason why PS2 was backwards compatible was because Sony found a use for the PS1 chipset. Since then Sony has acquired Connectix PS1 emulator. IF PS3 is backwards compatible it will be through software as well. |
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I wonder if sony is going to be smart this time and get eather ATI or Nvidia to do their GPU.
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Look MS is smart enough to make sure there is a way out of the contract if NV can come up with a better deal than ATI. I doubt though that NV really cares now for xb2, after dealing directly with MS.
What other company out there could have bid for a contract with MS? I doubt matrox could even come up with anything that would not be laughable. So is there anyone else out there? later,
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So ATi is going to desgin fairdly differnt (yet cutting-edge) chips for next Nintendo and MS console, in addition to PC hardware? I wound imagine that MS and Nintedo would want to diffrentiate their consoles, something that would be much hardwer if they have a nearly identical GPU. Further, who is going to provide mainboard logic, again ATi? Xbox clearly had major impact on Nvidia's product schedual, I wonder what kind of concehunced designing TWO concole GPUs in the same time-frame will have on ATi.
BTW, is MS going to buy chips from ATi or merely license the technology? |
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As for backwards compatability, nvidia stated in a conference call that the XB2 would be backwards compatible regardless of whether NV was used or not. |
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