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Davros · 29-Dec-2009, 15:25

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Originally Posted by neliz

I never do for instance (W and X) since my fingers are too big for most keyboards, I use S to "Use" for instance.

Problem solved you have to be logged in and in a game you cant do it before you load a game or it wont stick

trinibwoy · 29-Dec-2009, 15:37

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Originally Posted by MfA

esdf > wasd.

Lol are your hands so huge that your pinky finger falls off the keyboard when using WASD?

MfA · 29-Dec-2009, 16:50

esdf has the normal blind typing hand position (nice for games where you sometimes communicate with typed text) and allows you to use more mapped keys more easily (function keys are less convenient). A decent argument can be made for rdfg, even more keys in easy reach, but wasd is just completely and utterly inferior.

PS. Davros, thanks ... it seems I'm just blind and stupid, although you would kind of expect that on the axis menu with all the other movement related keys wouldn't you?

Mize · 29-Dec-2009, 17:02

wasd cramps my pinky painfully when left shift and ctrl are used...ouch. Need to remap...

trinibwoy · 29-Dec-2009, 19:38

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Originally Posted by MfA

esdf has the normal blind typing hand position (nice for games where you sometimes communicate with typed text) and allows you to use more mapped keys more easily (function keys are less convenient).

Ah, makes sense I guess. Though I think the only game I've ever typed in was WoW.

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Originally Posted by Mize

wasd cramps my pinky painfully when left shift and ctrl are used...ouch. Need to remap...

Yep, now that's a good reason to switch. Same thing happened to me recently - might have been in Mass Effect. I'm gonna have to unlearn years of WASDing!

Davros · 29-Dec-2009, 20:49

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Originally Posted by MfA

PS. Davros, thanks ... it seems I'm just blind and stupid,

My new sig

only joking

Actually I use w,s,q,e

Silent_Buddha · 31-Dec-2009, 09:42

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Originally Posted by MfA

Red Faction Guerrilla is some weird hybrid between a steam and GFW game ... GFW wants to download updates but because steam installed it it can't find the install path, sigh. Have to run the update manually. It also won't save your custom key settings until you have a GFW profile ... charming.

PS. even more charming, they let you think you can reconfigure your keybindings ... but then the first time you get into a vehicle you find out that forward/backward for normal vehicles is hard coded (they remembered for tanks, but forgot to use it for normal vehicles???). Goddamn console developers ...

Sounds like the same problem the PC version of Farcry 2 has with the hang glider. Made it virtually useless since I use RDFG instead of WASD.

Now, I'm constantly wondering when I'll run into another situation like that, sounds like Red Faction will be a game I'll have to avoid. /sigh...

Regards,
SB

Silent_Buddha · 31-Dec-2009, 09:46

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Originally Posted by MfA

esdf has the normal blind typing hand position (nice for games where you sometimes communicate with typed text) and allows you to use more mapped keys more easily (function keys are less convenient). A decent argument can be made for rdfg, even more keys in easy reach, but wasd is just completely and utterly inferior.

PS. Davros, thanks ... it seems I'm just blind and stupid, although you would kind of expect that on the axis menu with all the other movement related keys wouldn't you?

Yeah the whole reason I switched to RDFG was for access to more keys in easy reach. Especially when FPS games started to use more and more hotkeys.

So used to it now that I don't even have to think about it to shift my hand over 1 key in order to do blind typing then automatically switch back. I'm not even conscious I'm doing it when playing an MMORPG for example.

I can't imagine trying to get by with just the keys available to a WASD config.

Regards,
SB

MfA · 31-Dec-2009, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Silent_Buddha

Now, I'm constantly wondering when I'll run into another situation like that, sounds like Red Faction will be a game I'll have to avoid. /sigh...

I was just looking in the wrong section ... they have all the movement keys (including steering for vehicles) in one menu, except forward/backward for vehicles which was in another one.

PS. I should mention that the turret turning on the PC is bloody broken (there is no separate mouse sensitivity for it, with a playable sensitivity for turrets normal play becomes impossible and vice versa).

trinibwoy · 31-Dec-2009, 12:00

Why don't you guys just invest in an Xbox 360 controller? Would probably save you a lot of headache in console ports. I bought dead space and guerrilla but don't plan to play either until I snag me a controller first.

Davros · 31-Dec-2009, 12:13

I got round it this way:

MfA · 31-Dec-2009, 12:26

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Originally Posted by trinibwoy

Why don't you guys just invest in an Xbox 360 controller?

Cold day in hell I'll play a shooter with a controller given an alternative.

trinibwoy · 31-Dec-2009, 13:27

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Originally Posted by MfA

Cold day in hell I'll play a shooter with a controller given an alternative.

I guess but I'm willing to give it a go for a third person console port. Played the demo on PS3 and the controls were ok (still not up to kb/mouse of course)

trinibwoy · 31-Dec-2009, 17:42

Crysis + Warhead on Steam for $14. Bought! Just in time for the Mech mod

brain_stew · 31-Dec-2009, 18:54

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Originally Posted by trinibwoy

Crysis + Warhead on Steam for $14. Bought! Just in time for the Mech mod

Todays deals are bloody excellent:

Crysis + Warhead for £10.19/$14

Shattered Horizon for $5/£.3.75

Street Fighter for $10/£7.50

HL: Source for £1.50/$2.50

Darwinia/Multiwinia pack for $3/£1.75

Just insane, they somehow manage to pump out better deals every day, my PC backlog has become a mountain, I think I've got enough to keep me going for the rest of the year.

neliz · 31-Dec-2009, 19:01

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Originally Posted by trinibwoy

Crysis + Warhead on Steam for $14. Bought! Just in time for the Mech mod

oh nice, I was just holding warhead in my hands this afternoon, deciding if I should pick it up for €15

Davros · 31-Dec-2009, 19:02

hl source = half life in new engine - yes
does it do anything for opposing force ?

neliz · 31-Dec-2009, 19:03

Dang, european prices are a bit different, the crysis pack is €16.98 and we have medieval 2 for €2,49

neliz · 31-Dec-2009, 19:04

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Originally Posted by Davros

hl source = half life in new engine - yes
does it do anything for opposing force ?

no, HL-Source is a pretty ugly version.. not everything is pretty sourcy and blue-shift etc. are unaffected as far as I know.

Florin · 31-Dec-2009, 19:26

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Originally Posted by trinibwoy

Crysis + Warhead on Steam for $14. Bought! Just in time for the Mech mod

Yup, scored! Also got SF4.

I just have way too much to play now

And the funny thing is the $2 Stalker grabbed me more than anything so far..

Florin · 31-Dec-2009, 19:27

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Originally Posted by neliz

no, HL-Source is a pretty ugly version.. not everything is pretty sourcy and blue-shift etc. are unaffected as far as I know.

Yeah, it ain't pretty. Can't wait for Black Mesa to give it a proper onceover.

swaaye · 31-Dec-2009, 19:29

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Originally Posted by MfA

Cold day in hell I'll play a shooter with a controller given an alternative.

PC shooters do suck on gamepads because the autoaim the consoles "enjoy" isn't there.

It's funny though that Crysis will automap itself to a 360 pad on PC. It is very hard to actually accomplish anything in the game however.

nightshade · 01-Jan-2010, 08:43

The Warhead physical copy I own has a DRM protection [I hate it]
Does the same rules apply for digital copies ?

neliz · 01-Jan-2010, 08:57

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Originally Posted by nightshade

The Warhead physical copy I own has a DRM protection [I hate it]
Does the same rules apply for digital copies ?

what do you mean?

it's bound to steam, so if you download a patched .exe from the EA site, it means you can run it only once before it gets replaced by the steam executable.

nightshade · 01-Jan-2010, 13:40

What I mean is do the Digital Copies too face DRM limitations of 5 installs just like the physical copies, if yes then how ? Cause steam installs are diff from normal installs, you can just copy the .gcf files on a storage media & then paste it again whenever you want to make the game work.

Anyways bought Shattered Horizon...dont really expect a nice performance from my now outdated rig,but maybe I'll get a 5750 this month

29-Dec-2009, 16:50	#53
MfA Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,229	esdf has the normal blind typing hand position (nice for games where you sometimes communicate with typed text) and allows you to use more mapped keys more easily (function keys are less convenient). A decent argument can be made for rdfg, even more keys in easy reach, but wasd is just completely and utterly inferior. PS. Davros, thanks ... it seems I'm just blind and stupid, although you would kind of expect that on the axis menu with all the other movement related keys wouldn't you? Last edited by MfA; 29-Dec-2009 at 16:56.

29-Dec-2009, 17:02	#54
Mize That's my stapler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "Midwest," USA Posts: 3,951	wasd cramps my pinky painfully when left shift and ctrl are used...ouch. Need to remap... __________________ "Yes windows 3.1 was better than the macOS of the day. All the Windows OS's have been better." - eastmen

31-Dec-2009, 12:00	#60
trinibwoy Meh Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York Posts: 9,809	Why don't you guys just invest in an Xbox 360 controller? Would probably save you a lot of headache in console ports. I bought dead space and guerrilla but don't plan to play either until I snag me a controller first. __________________ What the deuce!?

31-Dec-2009, 12:13	#61
Davros Darlek ****** Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,498	I got round it this way: __________________ Guardian of the Most holy Two Terabytes of Gaming Goodness™

31-Dec-2009, 17:42	#64
trinibwoy Meh Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York Posts: 9,809	Crysis + Warhead on Steam for $14. Bought! Just in time for the Mech mod __________________ What the deuce!?

31-Dec-2009, 19:02	#67
Davros Darlek ****** Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,498	hl source = half life in new engine - yes does it do anything for opposing force ? __________________ Guardian of the Most holy Two Terabytes of Gaming Goodness™

31-Dec-2009, 19:03	#68
neliz MSI Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In the know Posts: 4,885	Dang, european prices are a bit different, the crysis pack is €16.98 and we have medieval 2 for €2,49 __________________ I miss you CJ, 1976 - 2010

01-Jan-2010, 08:43	#73
nightshade Naughty Boy! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,980	The Warhead physical copy I own has a DRM protection [I hate it] Does the same rules apply for digital copies ? __________________ wookies love cookies !

01-Jan-2010, 13:40	#75
nightshade Naughty Boy! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,980	What I mean is do the Digital Copies too face DRM limitations of 5 installs just like the physical copies, if yes then how ? Cause steam installs are diff from normal installs, you can just copy the .gcf files on a storage media & then paste it again whenever you want to make the game work. Anyways bought Shattered Horizon...dont really expect a nice performance from my now outdated rig,but maybe I'll get a 5750 this month __________________ wookies love cookies !

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