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Arty · 13-Dec-2010, 19:14

That are OC results 950mhz if Chrome translator is working correctly ..

NathansFortune · 13-Dec-2010, 19:14

Could be, we will find out later tomorrow either way! Hopefully some EU site breaks the embargo a few hours early and puts their articles up at midnight GMT so they don't have to wake up at 5am!

ECH · 13-Dec-2010, 19:22

Here's another one:
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...ssage/35199174

DarthShader · 13-Dec-2010, 19:26

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Originally Posted by ECH

New performance number to add to the fray
http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/Hardwar...1.htm#t7698486

Which is noticeably higher then the ones from the other thread

I wonder if reviews will be released today or wednesday?

Those tests were done on an i7@4.4Ghz, while the one from harwareluxx have been done on a X6 @ 4GHz. And no, those aren't overclocked unless GPU-Z says so - he said CCC limits overclocking at 950mhz.

rpg.314 · 13-Dec-2010, 19:32

Seems ~10% faster than 570? Does that mean it is almost tied with 580?

DarthShader · 13-Dec-2010, 19:33

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Originally Posted by ECH

Here's another one:
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...ssage/35199174

"Watermarks are gay"

A little cherrypicking there (no tesselation in Metro, etc.), but nice results nonetheless, should tackle a GTX580 in some of those cases.

leoneazzurro · 13-Dec-2010, 19:37

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Originally Posted by Arty

That are OC results 950mhz if Chrome translator is working correctly ..

First 3Dmark is default, the other with 70 MHz OC.

Jaaanosik · 13-Dec-2010, 19:52

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Originally Posted by rpg.314

Seems ~10% faster than 570? Does that mean it is almost tied with 580?

It's 25% according to this: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3121

neliz · 13-Dec-2010, 20:14

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Originally Posted by DarthShader

"Watermarks are gay"

Bite the hand that feeds you eh?

Mize · 13-Dec-2010, 20:25

Ok, so we have lots of leaked benchies...anyone analyze the AF/texture shimmer/quality?
(I sure am impatient)

neliz · 13-Dec-2010, 20:39

everybody seems to forget that these are the 190W benchmarks and that pushing the slider up to 20% higher TDP allows for different results.

Kef · 13-Dec-2010, 20:41

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Originally Posted by neliz

everybody seems to forget that these are the 190W benchmarks and that pushing the slider up to 20% higher TDP allows for different results.

IN that case, these results are fantastic!

Lightman · 13-Dec-2010, 20:46

Hint about pricing of HD6970 from Gibbo/OCuk:

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But what if it was £100 or more cheaper?

Of course from GTX580

That should be right around GTX570 pricing which is better than I've expected!

Spyhawk · 13-Dec-2010, 20:57

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Originally Posted by Kef

IN that case, these results are fantastic!

I dont see how the 6970 could be faster but cheaper then a gtx580. Its either faster and more expensive or slower and cheaper.

eastmen · 13-Dec-2010, 20:59

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Originally Posted by Spyhawk

I dont see how the 6970 could be faster but cheaper then a gtx580. Its either faster and more expensive or slower and cheaper.

Why ?

If they can sell a 6970 for $400 and make money on it then that is what amd will do. Whats it matter the price of the gtx 580. It would make more sense actually to put the squeeze on nvidia who has the larger chip.

AMD will also have a dual gpu verison of cayman released in early 2011 . So that can sit there at the $600 or above price bracket.

AlphaWolf · 13-Dec-2010, 21:01

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Originally Posted by Spyhawk

I dont see how the 6970 could be faster but cheaper then a gtx580. Its either faster and more expensive or slower and cheaper.

Maybe the slider also increases the price.

neliz · 13-Dec-2010, 21:07

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Originally Posted by AlphaWolf

Maybe the slider also increases the price.

Spyhawk · 13-Dec-2010, 21:17

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Originally Posted by eastmen

Why ?

If they can sell a 6970 for $400 and make money on it then that is what amd will do. Whats it matter the price of the gtx 580. It would make more sense actually to put the squeeze on nvidia who has the larger chip.

AMD will also have a dual gpu verison of cayman released in early 2011 . So that can sit there at the $600 or above price bracket.

Because historically faster products do not sell for less and AMD are in the business of making money so if they can add a few bucks more then why not ?

MrGaribaldi · 13-Dec-2010, 21:21

Because they can get a larger market share, and put pressure on nvidia to reduce their margins?

ZerazaX · 13-Dec-2010, 21:23

They already have a larger market share - in fact, if they even sold DX11 cards at a 2:1 ratio to Nvidia, they'd still lose market share.

And the margin game doesn't help AMD, esp. since Nvidia can sell cards to the HPC / pro market at a high margin

ECH · 13-Dec-2010, 21:24

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Originally Posted by neliz

Hmm, so we need to use a program like AB to see gpu loads/gpu freq.

Picao84 · 13-Dec-2010, 21:26

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Originally Posted by neliz

Can I ask WHY the cut graph? The other ones were not cut. Something smells fishy..

gamervivek · 13-Dec-2010, 21:31

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Originally Posted by Spyhawk

Because historically faster products do not sell for less and AMD are in the business of making money so if they can add a few bucks more then why not ?

technology is deflationary

no-X · 13-Dec-2010, 21:31

Picao84: Yes, at the bottom of the slide is a secret password enabling all the 1920 SPs!

neliz · 13-Dec-2010, 21:37

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Originally Posted by no-X

Picao84: Yes, at the bottom of the slide is a secret password enabling all the 1920 SPs!

ssh! don't tell, otherwise he'll use CSI reverse cryptograhy to rebuild md5 tags and create the full image and lay waste on all the non 1920SP owners.

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ECH Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 655	Here's another one: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...ssage/35199174

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