[Arwin]

Forza Motorsport 3 was officially unveiled at E3's 2009 press conference, aiming for an October release. Features mentioned during the conference:

- cockpit view with free looking around
- you can flip over
- 400 cars / 50 manufacturers
- rewind like in Grid
- create and upload high-dev video, with several camera angles, slow motion, etc.

[Asher]

It looks amazing from the pics I've seen. I cannot fathom why GT5 is taking so long...Turn10 seems to be schooling PD.

Finally car flipping. That must've been a war with the car makers to license.

[DrJay24]

How does one unreleased game school another unreleased game? The hyperbole is great on E3 day.

I have yet to play my copy of Forza 2, driving sims are boring, sorry

[Asher]

Originally Posted by DrJay24

How does one unreleased game school another unreleased game? The hyperbole is great on E3 day.

Getting games out.

[user542745831]

E3 09: Debut Trailer HD

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-forza/50003

E3 09: Press Conference Footage HD

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-forza/49989

E3 09: Video Editor Conference Footage HD

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-forza/49999

[patsu]

Originally Posted by Asher

I cannot fathom why GT5 is taking so long...

Without knowing the scope and depth, no outsider, no one, will be able to estimate the development time -- regardless of title.

Turn10 seems to be schooling PD.

Cockpit view comes late in Forza.

Those guys are certainly taking a long time. I see complains all the time.

[Tap In]

in game footage (taken form replay cameras)

[Malibu]

Screens

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/1...39/imgs_1.html

[the ignoramus]

The game looks nice.

[mrcorbo]

I can't wait to see much much more from this game. The flipping cars and pieces of debris flying off has me really hyped to see more detailed info and demonstrations of the advancements Turn 10 have made to the collision modeling. Also, they modeled a waterfall?! That's a first for a sim as far as I'm aware.

The cockpit view is nice. From a gameplay standpoint I don't consider it that important and prefer roof or hood-cam, but as a car enthusiast I appreciate that they have added it and it was from this latter perspective that I considered it a mistake when they were recently hinting at it not being in there. Some of these cars are just as if not more beautiful on the inside as the outside.

[Malibu]

Press conference gameplay

http://gamersyde.com/stream_11164_en.html

[liolio]

The game looks impressively better than the first rendition on the 360, pretty good job!
Anyway not for me, I'm more the arcade racer type.

[RobertR1]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=182

The truth is FM3 is even MORE of a sim than FM2. One of the big physics improvements we've added is real-time tire deformation and wall flex which directly affect grip threshold. We'll be doing deep dives into all of FM3's new sim features in the coming weeks and months.

I'm quite impressed what they have been able to achieve in 2 years of development time since Forza 2.

[Nesh]

Damn! Great improvement indeed. Even the visuals seem to be on par with GT5.

Edit: btw despite what they claim, for some reason it looked kind of arcadey to me

[RobertR1]

Originally Posted by Nesh

Damn! Great improvement indeed. Even the visuals seem to be on par with GT5.

Edit: btw despite what they claim, for some reason it looked kind of arcadey to me

Che explains that also. He said they intentionally make it look arcade like to appeal to the casuals so that they're not intimiated by simulation driving. They'll get deep into the sim stuff over the next few days/weeks/months. I doubt they'll dumb down the sim aspects of the game at all.

[infinity4]

The only thing that looks ugly is the LOGO. Seriously, they couldn't have made anything as bad as that.

Other than that everything looks good. I am keeping my 360 just for this game.

[Tahir2]

Wow it looks very special. I can't wait to play it!

[Hazuki Ryu]

They say the car models have 10 times the poly counts in Forza 2, what would that make them 1 million ?

[FirewalkR]

And iirc they confirmed 60fps during the conference. Which is pretty amazing.

[22psi]

Wow just amazing, on par with GT5 it seems esp with super detailed backgrounds

[ShadowWolf64]

The trailer blew me away as the car model graphics quality is easily as good as GT5 and the enviornments look fantastic.Im also impressed that the game will be running at a full 60 fps.The 360 has a damn good Fall line-up of exclusive games

[Cheezdoodles]

Holy crap! This looks just as good as GT5. Didn't expect this.

[Neb]

Originally Posted by Hazuki Ryu

They say the car models have 10 times the poly counts in Forza 2, what would that make them 1 million ?

Tesselation?

[Arwin]

Looking at the in-game footage, lighting while in-game is definitely downgraded, and much more like Forza 2. The cars still bleach out when reflecting light. I don't think this has 'real' HDR? Lighting in in-car view seems even more flat. Still 8 cars on track also, it seems. I like the art-design on this track in general - Forza has always been pretty good at that - and the cars look a bit better than in Forza 2, though in-game I don't think the cars have that many polys to be honest, 100.000 maybe including cockpit? It's in the presentation screens where the cars clearly have a lot of detail. Not that this is greatly important - for me all Forza needs to do is nail the driving model a little bit better than they have before.

Only 8 cars right now is my biggest gripe with the game I think, and the lighting in-game next.

[Cheezdoodles]

In Forza 2 they tried artistical lighting effects, to pronounce some colors and making certain things more visible for artistical and gameplay effects. I hope they dont do this in FM3, i think GT's approach with trying to be photorealistic is much more interesting for a racing sim.