[fellix]

Crysis 2 is being re-designed for GTX580

This is KitGuru, so take it with a bucket of salt, but it really doesn't sound so implausible, for one of the most expected AAA titles. It looks like the dirty tricks season is far from over -- I expect tons of overdone tessellation in the game...

[Tamlin]

Originally Posted by fellix

Crysis 2 is being re-designed for GTX580

This is KitGuru, so take it with a bucket of salt, but it really doesn't sound so implausible, for one of the most expected AAA titles. It looks like the dirty tricks season is far from over -- I expect tons of overdone tessellation in the game...

The joke can be on Nvidia if AMD have a driver based solution with tessellation performance improvements like they speak of in Hawx 2 :

AMD has demonstrated to Ubisoft tessellation performance improvements that benefit all GPUs, but the developer has chosen not to implement them in the preview benchmark. For that reason, we are working on a driver-based solution in time for the final release of the game that improves performance without sacrificing image quality.

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/9248/

Perhaps they found a way not to render the triangles that will not be used anyway? :P

[Davros]

I think the driver solution only improves performance when tessellation is done in a non dx standard way, it wont help with overdone tessellation

[Arnold Beckenbauer]

nVidia’s $2 Million Crysis

September 8th, 2010 at 9:09 am - Author faith

[homerdog]

I wonder, will AMD take this lying down like they usually do?

[Malo]

Originally Posted by homerdog

I wonder, will AMD take this lying down like they usually do?

What would you like them to do exactly? Offer $4m instead? Rant and rave that it's unfair? Point out the obvious thing that Nvidia need to pay developers to make their cards look good?

[L. Scofield]

New MP screenshots

http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php...cle_id=1297640

Seems like muzzleflash shadows are still in

[Laa-Yosh]

I told you that chromatic aberration for game graphics is coming... now here it is. Not sure I'd like this much of it, though.

[Jawed]

Originally Posted by Laa-Yosh

I told you that chromatic aberration for game graphics is coming... now here it is. Not sure I'd like this much of it, though.

Been here for a while:

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1310135

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Originally Posted by Laa-Yosh

I told you that chromatic aberration for game graphics is coming... now here it is. Not sure I'd like this much of it, though.

It's a artistic/stylistic thing though isn't it? Like people using photoshop to put lensflare into pictures taken with cameras and lenses that have been carefully designed to minimise the problem.

It's just another tool for people to use and abuse as they feel necessary, and will follow like shakycam, first person view, auto-tune, skin-smoothing, etc. Some people will use it cleverly and with subtlety, and others will hit you over the head with it. Like everything else, CA will go from being a careful and corrective tool, to having creative uses of its own.

[Neb]

CA been in games for a while in different forms. All Crysis games uses CA for HUD visor effects (hit by bullets), EMP and other special effects aswell as for water surface in relation to sunlight both on and under surface. Prey used it for force field effect and there been several other games using CA.

[Laa-Yosh]

Yeah, we use it too, but the key word here is "subtlety"...

[homerdog]

Originally Posted by Malo

What would you like them to do exactly? Offer $4m instead? Rant and rave that it's unfair? Point out the obvious thing that Nvidia need to pay developers to make their cards look good?

Well in a perfect world everyone would play fair, but in reality yes AMD might have to spend some money to prevent things like this from happening.

[Neb]

Just saw the 'Next NV GPU techdemo' presentation video today. No wonder they are paying for a redisgn when the next Nvidia GPU seems cappable to run 2000 million polygons per frame (with tesselation) pretty smoothly while at same time rendering 500000 dynamic lightsources and rest of graphical effects... sweet mother of mercy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPMH...layer_embedded

[L. Scofield]

The redesign thing is just the article's writer opinion. The $2 million will probably be spent on marketing.

[joker454]

Originally Posted by Nebula

Just saw the 'Next NV GPU techdemo' presentation video today. No wonder they are paying for a redisgn when the next Nvidia GPU seems cappable to run 2000 million polygons per frame (with tesselation) pretty smoothly while at same time rendering 500000 dynamic lightsources and rest of graphical effects... sweet mother of mercy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPMH...layer_embedded

Some bold claims in there, fastest dx11 card and near silent during gaming? I guess we'll see. Either way, it's about time we got some good competition back in the gpu market!

[Malo]

Originally Posted by joker454

Some bold claims in there, fastest dx11 card and near silent during gaming? I guess we'll see. Either way, it's about time we got some good competition back in the gpu market!

Yep, better competing product from Nv means ATI forced to also lower prices, which we've already seen since 6xxx release. As long as Nv's release is fairly decent in the reviews, maybe we won't see that lengthy price hike from AMD again.

[green.pixel]

Originally Posted by L. Scofield

The $2 million will probably be spent on marketing.

Looks like it:

Nvidia is spending a full $2 million bucks on the marketing machine and including a built in benchmark before the upcoming Crysis 2 launch

What Nvidia will get for its buck is marketing rights - think spreads on banners with the Nvidia logo saying how much Crysis 2 shows off its latest lines of cards. It could be a good move or it could be a total flop - time will tell as it rolls closer to release date.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406680

Videocard money hats are the worst part about PC gaming. Reminds me too much of consoles.

[Mobius1aic]

Originally Posted by L. Scofield

New MP screenshots

http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php...cle_id=1297640

Seems like muzzleflash shadows are still in

Interesting how he asks whether Crysis was really a good game or not. Surely this whole marketing scheme will run in Nvidia's favor, maybe get them back on their feet after all the problems launching Fermi. I'm genuinely interested in how the GTX 580 will end up from a market point of view, as while I'm admitting to being pro-ATi *AHEM*-AMD-.....I still like Nvidia's products. Despite being handicapped on 2 GB of system memory, the GTX 460 1 GB I have in my secondary system has performed excellently in comparison to the Radeon 5850 in my main. My current laptop has an Nvidia GPU (310M) as well as my previous two laptops (Geforce 9800M GS and Geforce Go 7200). It's not as much of a preference but availability of dedicated Nvidia GPUs being more prominent in notebooks.

Anyways, I'm still tentative about how Crysis 2 will perform on varying GPUs, especially those that are similar in capability to what we had available with the release of the original Crysis. If Crysis 2 is going to end up needing beyond a Radeon GTX 9800 or Radeon 4850 for max settings at 720p, I'm going to be severely disappointed in Crytek, especially if the PC exclusive graphics enhancements are marginal over what's available in the console versions. I doubt Crytek would allow that to happen. I think their performance target should be 30+ FPS at 1080p, max settings with 2x AA on hardware like a Radeon 4870 or GTX 260. It's a sensible and highly doable target that seemed to be quite difficult with the first Crysis.

[green.pixel]

Originally Posted by Malo

Consoles and multi-player is where their investors want them to take the game as that is where the money is.

The bling factor will be huge fo' sure with the fratboy/ADD demographic.

[L. Scofield]

"PC is easily a generation ahead right now. With 360 and PS3, we believe the quality of the games beyond Crysis 2 and other CryEngine developments will be pretty much limited to what their creative expressions is, what the content is. You won't be able to squeeze more juice from these rocks."

http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=277729

Nothing we didn't know already but it's nice to see Yerli admitting that C2 could be much better if it didn't have console versions.

[green.pixel]

Well, we are not held back by the freedom provided by the nature of the platform and fighting between the big fish so smaller devs we'll provide something much better in terms of gp, Red Orchestra: HoS and Natural Selection 2, so who cares.

[Davros]

Originally Posted by L. Scofield

http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=277729

Nothing we didn't know already but it's nice to see Yerli admitting that C2 could be much better if it didn't have console versions.

Life would be much better if it didn't have console versions.

[Neb]

Originally Posted by L. Scofield

http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=277729

Nothing we didn't know already but it's nice to see Yerli admitting that C2 could be much better if it didn't have console versions.

PC was a generation ahead years ago.

[homerdog]

Originally Posted by Nebula

PC was a generation ahead years ago.

High end PCs from a couple of years ago. Here at the end of 2010 even a midrange gaming PC can firmly be considered a generation ahead of the consoles, if you define a generation as ~ the difference between Xbox and Xbox 360.