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AlStrong · 25-Apr-2012, 08:42

The Capcom blog confirms FXAA here: http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman...e_mt_framework

Kameradschaft · 25-Apr-2012, 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by i nerini del buio

I think the game is indeed doing both (I may be wrong obviously).
It looks clean nonetheless -> http://i.imgur.com/f6AHY.jpg

I played the 360 demo yesterday and it looked blurry (maybe FXAA is the cause of that), black boarders are bigger than I thought with Just Scan on and the tearing is really bad at 1080p but things are definitely better at 720p - same bug with previous MT Framework games? Pretty disappointing looking game IQ-wise IMO considering previous games on the same engine were very good on that aspect.

eloyc · 26-Apr-2012, 12:41

New Tekken Tag Tournament 2 screenshots:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com...2-screenshots/

I'm not liking the graphics, so far. Blurry and... weird, don't know why (well, at least I'm sure vertical resolution has something to do with it, besides the compression for these screenshots).

PLUS, Jun is looking ugly as funk! :-S

EDIT: after a fast pixel counting, resolution looks (almost?) native. Aaaand what happens to self-shadowind? You can barely spot it. Characters look like plastic figurines lit by both sides, with no apparent shadows cast over them. Do you remember if this happened in Tekken 6 and if it looked better in motion?

AlStrong · 26-Apr-2012, 12:52

Well, these images aren't really analysis-worthy unless the game is truly upscaled to 576p.

eloyc · 26-Apr-2012, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlStrong

Well, these images aren't really analysis-worthy unless the game is truly upscaled to 576p.

EDIT: Wha... I got confused, here. I thought you saw the full resolution images from the beginning.

AlStrong · 26-Apr-2012, 13:00

Well, the full screen images are 1024x576 (or 575, 578 etc), so... *shrug* I'll wait for proper 720p captures that aren't doctored so much.

i nerini del buio · 26-Apr-2012, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlStrong

Well, the full screen images are 1024x576 (or 575, 578 etc), so... *shrug* I'll wait for proper 720p captures that aren't doctored so much.

isn't this 1280*720 ? -> http://i.imgur.com/f6AHY.jpg

edit. ah, talking about TTTournament, my apologies

eloyc · 26-Apr-2012, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by i nerini del buio

isn't this 1280*720 ? -> http://i.imgur.com/f6AHY.jpg

edit. ah, talking about TTTournament, my apologies

Just a few posts ago I said "Tekken Tag Tournament 2", but yep, the "big guy" in your picture could be Ogre's cousin or something.

Gitaroo · 26-Apr-2012, 18:13

http://thesilentchief.com/wp-content...09/ttt2-17.jpg

Think that is for the console version. Anyone know why the team is struggling getting the resolution up? Where soul caliber and DOA5 manage 720p @60 fps just fine and DOA will probably have tag mode with 4 characters on screen. Not to mention the character models in DOA5 looks much better. Is it because of the character customization or there iss something to do with the way tekken works?

Reiko · 26-Apr-2012, 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gitaroo

http://thesilentchief.com/wp-content...09/ttt2-17.jpg

Think that is for the console version. Anyone know why the team is struggling getting the resolution up? Where soul caliber and DOA5 manage 720p @60 fps just fine and DOA will probably have tag mode with 4 characters on screen. Not to mention the character models in DOA5 looks much better. Is it because of the character customization or there iss something to do with the way tekken works?

Object Based Motion Blur at 60fps

Kasersky · 28-Apr-2012, 19:01

http://i.imgur.com/x2PEV.jpg

i heard hybrid is 1280x720 @ 60fps and looks like fxaa. also one of the better implementations of it i've seen on consoles details seem better intact and aliasing is very minimal.

FATBOT · 08-May-2012, 18:29

Beyond Good and Evil 2 for Next Generation Consoles:

AlStrong · 08-May-2012, 20:18

Might have been downscaled from 1600x900.

Arwin · 11-May-2012, 09:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATBOT

Beyond Good and Evil 2 for Next Generation Consoles:

What's next-gen about this? Or is this Wii U 'next-gen'?

FATBOT · 11-May-2012, 09:52

Max Payne 3 (360?)

Kameradschaft · 11-May-2012, 11:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATBOT

Max Payne 3 (360?)

This is a really bad screenshot...the game looks nothing like this blurry, jaggy mess.

From what I've played (played the 360 version on a friend's house) the game looked very sharp and the jaggies were nowhere near this level.

My guess is 720p with some sort of PPAA (FXAA?) which works quite well and does not compromise IQ clarity.

AlStrong · 11-May-2012, 15:10

What's up with the black bar and 1080p? Why not just capture @ 720p?

Kasersky · 11-May-2012, 21:26

i found some screenshots with hud elements so i assume these are real but who knows. these look consistent with rockstar's engine

http://i.imgur.com/3T82i.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/e9ENu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PMV2h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CUNh9.jpg <-- shows most aliasing

http://www.justpushstart.com/2012/05...nshots-inside/

AlStrong · 11-May-2012, 21:30

Those look native. The edge AA does seem remniscient of FXAA.

Kasersky · 11-May-2012, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlStrong

Those look native. The edge AA does seem remniscient of FXAA.

i like how they slipped the aa before the UI so they're not messed up like they are in ghost recon.

Ruskie · 24-May-2012, 01:42

I was wondering if someone (Al in particular

) could somehow annalyze GTAV trailer resolution. These are the best screenshots taken from trailer (almost 3 thousand of them). So...if its possible somehow...

http://spaceeinstein.webs.com/V.htm

AlStrong · 24-May-2012, 02:11

Looks native... just remove the black bars for the actual res. That's some pretty heavy blur they've got there too.

ultragpu · 26-May-2012, 05:19

Does anyone know if DOA5 on consoles are native res? I've heard rumors of 360 demo running different res than Ps3's demo.

user542745831 · 26-May-2012, 21:13

Anyone here who would be able to figure out the native rendering resolution and AA of the "Spec Ops: The Line" PS3 Demo and Xbox 360 Demo from what seems to be shown there:

http://translate.google.com/translat...597%2F&act=url

?

AlStrong · 28-May-2012, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by user542745831

Anyone here who would be able to figure out the native rendering resolution and AA of the "Spec Ops: The Line" PS3 Demo and Xbox 360 Demo from what seems to be shown there:

The PS3 version looks like it may be 1120x630. The 360 version might be 1216x680 or thereabouts. Really need longer edges, but the blurring isn't helping either. Close enough.

25-Apr-2012, 08:42	#3126
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978	The Capcom blog confirms FXAA here: http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman...e_mt_framework __________________

26-Apr-2012, 12:41	#3128
eloyc Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 265	New Tekken Tag Tournament 2 screenshots: http://www.computerandvideogames.com...2-screenshots/ I'm not liking the graphics, so far. Blurry and... weird, don't know why (well, at least I'm sure vertical resolution has something to do with it, besides the compression for these screenshots). PLUS, Jun is looking ugly as funk! :-S EDIT: after a fast pixel counting, resolution looks (almost?) native. Aaaand what happens to self-shadowind? You can barely spot it. Characters look like plastic figurines lit by both sides, with no apparent shadows cast over them. Do you remember if this happened in Tekken 6 and if it looked better in motion? Last edited by eloyc; 26-Apr-2012 at 12:52.

26-Apr-2012, 12:52	#3129
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978	Well, these images aren't really analysis-worthy unless the game is truly upscaled to 576p. __________________

26-Apr-2012, 13:00	#3131
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978	Well, the full screen images are 1024x576 (or 575, 578 etc), so... shrug I'll wait for proper 720p captures that aren't doctored so much. __________________

08-May-2012, 20:18	#3138
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978	Might have been downscaled from 1600x900. __________________

26-Apr-2012, 18:13	#3134
Gitaroo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,386	http://thesilentchief.com/wp-content...09/ttt2-17.jpg Think that is for the console version. Anyone know why the team is struggling getting the resolution up? Where soul caliber and DOA5 manage 720p @60 fps just fine and DOA will probably have tag mode with 4 characters on screen. Not to mention the character models in DOA5 looks much better. Is it because of the character customization or there iss something to do with the way tekken works?

28-Apr-2012, 19:01	#3136
Kasersky Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 302	http://i.imgur.com/x2PEV.jpg i heard hybrid is 1280x720 @ 60fps and looks like fxaa. also one of the better implementations of it i've seen on consoles details seem better intact and aliasing is very minimal.

08-May-2012, 18:29	#3137
FATBOT Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 47	Beyond Good and Evil 2 for Next Generation Consoles:

11-May-2012, 09:52	#3140
FATBOT Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 47	Max Payne 3 (360?)

11-May-2012, 15:10	#3142
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978	What's up with the black bar and 1080p? Why not just capture @ 720p? __________________

11-May-2012, 21:26	#3143
Kasersky Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 302	i found some screenshots with hud elements so i assume these are real but who knows. these look consistent with rockstar's engine http://i.imgur.com/3T82i.jpg http://i.imgur.com/e9ENu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PMV2h.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CUNh9.jpg <-- shows most aliasing http://www.justpushstart.com/2012/05...nshots-inside/

11-May-2012, 21:30	#3144
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978	Those look native. The edge AA does seem remniscient of FXAA. __________________

24-May-2012, 01:42	#3146
Ruskie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,283	I was wondering if someone (Al in particular ) could somehow annalyze GTAV trailer resolution. These are the best screenshots taken from trailer (almost 3 thousand of them). So...if its possible somehow... http://spaceeinstein.webs.com/V.htm

24-May-2012, 02:11	#3147
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978	Looks native... just remove the black bars for the actual res. That's some pretty heavy blur they've got there too. __________________

26-May-2012, 05:19	#3148
ultragpu Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 2,353	Does anyone know if DOA5 on consoles are native res? I've heard rumors of 360 demo running different res than Ps3's demo.

26-May-2012, 21:13	#3149
user542745831 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,090	Anyone here who would be able to figure out the native rendering resolution and AA of the "Spec Ops: The Line" PS3 Demo and Xbox 360 Demo from what seems to be shown there: http://translate.google.com/translat...597%2F&act=url ?

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