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Demirug · 21-Sep-2009, 13:33

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Originally Posted by trinibwoy

CS5.0 only or was CS4.x good enough?

As we haven’t announced it yet I could not go into too much detail. Ask me again when the press release is out of the door.

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Originally Posted by Mariner

I agree with Ailuros - that 'artwork' behind them is truly bloody awful!

It’s an nvidia logo rendered with a GT300 GPU. *SCNR*

Mariner · 21-Sep-2009, 13:55

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Originally Posted by Demirug

It’s an nvidia logo rendered with a GT300 GPU. *SCNR*

Must be using a special "bad-taste-o-vision" shader.

neliz · 21-Sep-2009, 14:02

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Originally Posted by Mariner

Must be using a special "bad-taste-o-vision" shader.

guys guys, this is low!

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Ailuros · 21-Sep-2009, 14:15

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Originally Posted by neliz

guys guys, this is low!

Why? Since when have you become a defender of dreadful artwork anyway?

neliz · 21-Sep-2009, 14:19

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Originally Posted by Ailuros

Why? Since when have you become a defender of dreadful artwork anyway?

Once you've seen it up close, you'll appreciate the finer things in.. green...

btw, Hexus is fashionably late but speculative

Razor1 · 21-Sep-2009, 14:22

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Originally Posted by SimBy

He is not an idiot I'm sure, on the other hand, I'm quite sure he is in bed with nV.

I mean srsly! Overpriced?? Compared to what? And what about millions that nV bribes devs with in TWIMTBP. He obviously has something to gain by writing this nonsense.

Hmm he isn't in bed with nV, I don't agree with his comments on overpriced, but I can tell you TWIMTBP doesn't bribe developers, but I'm aware ATi did give out cash (like) purchase the Cry Engine for a 10 min demo thats 500k. Its not suprising they will spend $1 million on a game like Grid, codemasters seem to have been working with ATi for many years now.

2senile · 21-Sep-2009, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Razor1

Hmm he isn't in bed with nV, I don't agree with his comments on overpriced, but I can tell you TWIMTBP doesn't bribe developers, but I'm aware ATi did give out cash (like) purchase the Cry Engine for a 10 min demo thats 500k. Its not suprising they will spend $1 million on a game like Grid, codemasters seem to have been working with ATi for many years now.

Hell! I thought Fudo was talking code

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ATI throws a million+ in Dirt 2

Razor1 · 21-Sep-2009, 14:31

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Originally Posted by 2senile

Hell! I thought Fudo was talking code

ah sorry its marketing they will do it if they have to, if its code thats fine, if its something else, I don't see why its such a big deal, come on, the codemaster's engines seem to have been working with with ATi cards for years now.

Ailuros · 21-Sep-2009, 14:36

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Originally Posted by neliz

Once you've seen it up close, you'll appreciate the finer things in.. green...

Well whoever took that shot concentrated on that pukework on purpose.

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btw, Hexus is fashionably late but speculative

Let's just take one step at a time. I don't doubt one second that they might have something along that line in plans, but it sounds way too early for now.

neliz · 21-Sep-2009, 14:42

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Originally Posted by Ailuros

Let's just take one step at a time. I don't doubt one second that they might have something along that line in plans, but it sounds way too early for now.

Haven't you heard? Latest craze is that the HD5870 is a cut-down part. 1440 for the 5850, 1600 for the 5870 and then 1760 or 1920 for the 5890.
Heck, people taking the chiphell pic. at face value believe it's closer to 2400 than anything else

putting it well in the middle of a 1600 5870 and a 3200 Hemlock.

Ailuros · 21-Sep-2009, 15:00

Shall I laugh or cry? *sigh*

2senile · 21-Sep-2009, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Razor1

ah sorry its marketing they will do it if they have to, if its code thats fine, if its something else, I don't see why its such a big deal, come on, the codemaster's engines seem to have been working with with ATi cards for years now.

I just don't know & never really thought about marketing deals. While I can accept "game bundling promotions" costing $$$s I thought AMD were not really in a position, financially, to go overboard.

What sort of money is available/normal/usual for TWIMTBP & ... the ATi equivalent?

Arty · 21-Sep-2009, 15:14

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Originally Posted by Razor1

Hmm he isn't in bed with nV, I don't agree with his comments on overpriced, but I can tell you TWIMTBP doesn't bribe developers, but I'm aware ATi did give out cash (like) purchase the Cry Engine for a 10 min demo thats 500k. Its not suprising they will spend $1 million on a game like Grid, codemasters seem to have been working with ATi for many years now.

I dont know how you made the connection that Fuad isnt in bed with Nv to TWIMTBP doesnt bribe developers. Fuad's latest blurb just shows who's spinning his mouth and also there is no "bribe", there are contractual agreements.

Razor1 · 21-Sep-2009, 15:20

Faud tends to be pretty neutral with his articles, I took it that he personally thinks the pricing of the the HD line is expensive comparative to the previous HD line.

Now nV does have more money to spend on co-marketing deals that is true, but thats just business, for ATi since they can't spend as much. When they had the chance with the r3xx line they didn't take the advantage to stucture themselves well in that aspect, nothing that we say will change that, they missed a great oppurtunity, looks like that don't want to do that now, they have an advantage of an earlier release.

Arty · 21-Sep-2009, 15:31

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Originally Posted by Razor1

Faud tends to be pretty neutral with his articles, I took it that he personally thinks the pricing of the the HD line is expensive comparative to the previous HD line.

Fuad is as neutral as Charlie is. If you cant see Fuad's slant in his last five articles then no convincing by me can make you see that now. Lets agree to disagree on this topic, others have well and truly see Fuad's colors, if they had also mistankely thought that he was "neutral".

neliz, any more bench leaks?

Ninjagnu · 21-Sep-2009, 15:51

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Originally Posted by Razor1

Faud tends to be pretty neutral with his articles.

And thats when I stopped reading your posts.

Fudo/Charlie are fanbois to the ridiculous, if you do anything but read them for humor value then I pity you.

Davros · 21-Sep-2009, 15:52

How are the 5 series cards priced compared to the price of the 4 series when they were launched ?

neliz · 21-Sep-2009, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Arty

neliz, any more bench leaks?

1 I'm waiting for someone to break NDA and tell you about the SS AAA options, amongst the other AA options there, but Fellix' source doesn't come up with the goods

6 I'm also looking forward to using ED without Source engine games crapping out on me.
X

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Originally Posted by Davros

How are the 5 series cards priced compared to the price of the 4 series when they were launched ?

Higher? But still lower than the GT200's at launch. so overall AMD positioned the HD5xxx cards slightly higher than the HD4xxx cards.
Overall the HD5870 is priced €50/€75 lower than the HD2900XT at launch, dealer prices for the HD5870 is €275, retail is €310.
If someone cries "prices have gone up" than prepare for more expensive products with higher performance.

fellix · 21-Sep-2009, 15:57

8xMSAA pattern sample from a 5870 board. Same since the R600 as you see.

Davros · 21-Sep-2009, 15:57

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Originally Posted by 2senile

We've just got to have a caption competition

ferro · 21-Sep-2009, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Arty

neliz, any more bench leaks?

Here you go:

Razor1 · 21-Sep-2009, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Arty

Fuad is as neutral as Charlie is. If you cant see Fuad's slant in his last five articles then no convincing by me can make you see that now. Lets agree to disagree on this topic, others have well and truly see Fuad's colors, if they had also mistankely thought that he was "neutral".

The last article outside of what I arlready stated, I don't see how his view's were anything else. Also if you read his previous articles, he is stating what I said, the new low- mid range cards are going to be more then the previous high end cards but they won't perform as well over all.

One about the gt300 being faster I saw nothing in there that was outright down on ATi cards, other then him stating one is faster then the other, not only that his article was just passing along info, nothing expounded upon or anything of the sort.

His Dx 11 article which was stating ATi is pushing Dx 11 seems pretty neutral.

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Originally Posted by Ninjagnu

And thats when I stopped reading your posts.

Fudo/Charlie are fanbois to the ridiculous, if you do anything but read them for humor value then I pity you.

Easy enough just have to wait to see which of the two actually comes out true

Tchock · 21-Sep-2009, 16:14

Crysis is juicy and the 'tards on the net can shut up now. But f***. 3*2.76GFLOPs. Wow.

(They are retards for using the base config, that's all.

)

ferro · 21-Sep-2009, 16:18

Finally a straight 4870 / 5870 comparison:

Unfortunately no information about resolution, settings, and absolute frame rates.

fehu · 21-Sep-2009, 16:18

Why the increase in % is greater for the crossfire 3?
magic? :O

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21-Sep-2009, 15:00	#3511
Ailuros Epsilon plus three Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chania Posts: 7,818	Shall I laugh or cry? sigh __________________ People are more violently opposed to fur than leather; because it's easier to harass rich ladies than motorcycle gangs.

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21-Sep-2009, 15:57	#3519
fellix Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Varna, Bulgaria Posts: 2,832	8xMSAA pattern sample from a 5870 board. Same since the R600 as you see. __________________ Apple: China -- Brutal leadership done right. Google: United States -- Somewhat democratic. Microsoft: Russia -- Big and bloated. Linux: EU -- Diverse and broke.

21-Sep-2009, 16:14	#3523
Tchock Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Jurong West Posts: 770	Crysis is juicy and the 'tards on the net can shut up now. But f**. 32.76GFLOPs. Wow. (They are retards for using the base config, that's all. ) __________________ <rpg.314> - I have a feeling that shielding 480 from the evils of afr, embodied in that creation of satan called 5970, will be a part of epic battle between good and evil <neliz> - The Devil doesn't wear green.

21-Sep-2009, 15:20	#3514
Razor1 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NY, NY Posts: 2,680	Faud tends to be pretty neutral with his articles, I took it that he personally thinks the pricing of the the HD line is expensive comparative to the previous HD line. Now nV does have more money to spend on co-marketing deals that is true, but thats just business, for ATi since they can't spend as much. When they had the chance with the r3xx line they didn't take the advantage to stucture themselves well in that aspect, nothing that we say will change that, they missed a great oppurtunity, looks like that don't want to do that now, they have an advantage of an earlier release.

21-Sep-2009, 16:18	#3524
ferro Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 130	Finally a straight 4870 / 5870 comparison: Unfortunately no information about resolution, settings, and absolute frame rates.

21-Sep-2009, 16:18	#3525
fehu Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Somewhere over the ocean Posts: 648	Why the increase in % is greater for the crossfire 3? magic? :O

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