[Spaceman-Spiff]

Review at 3D Professor, compares the card with nVIDIA Quadro FX 5600

I must say 3D Professor's website is pretty crappy for a review site. Still static html and every image is in GIF format . But then again, I don't know of any other websites that benchmarks the FireGL.

So, I'm guessing this is the AMD surprise the Inq was talking about...

More Info:
- Product Description
- Technical Specs

[mczak]

crappy or not, tomshardware also does firegl reviews from time to time. Last time was a firegl v7600 which is pretty much the same as the v8650. Just only 512MB ram and heavily underclocked at 1/3 the cost I guess.
I fail to see the surprise here, looks like a very good way to get rid of all those old R600 chips for lots of money though .

[XMAN26]

Originally Posted by Spaceman-Spiff

Review at 3D Professor, compares the card with nVIDIA Quadro FX 5600

I must say 3D Professor's website is pretty crappy for a review site. Still static html and every image is in GIF format . But then again, I don't know of any other websites that benchmarks the FireGL.

So, I'm guessing this is the AMD surprise the Inq was talking about...

More Info:
- Product Description
- Technical Specs

I love how they use a synthetic bench and declare a winner when in the past, ATI has always won the syn benches but got is ass handed to it in real world apps.

[CJ]

Originally Posted by XMAN26

I love how they use a synthetic bench and declare a winner when in the past, ATI has always won the syn benches but got is ass handed to it in real world apps.

Specviewperf is more than "just" a simple synthetic bench. It's a pretty good predictor of graphics application performance because it uses datasets that are designed for and used by real applications like Maya, 3D Studio Max, Ensight etc. And usually it was ATI's FireGL who got it's ass whooped by NVs Quadro FX.

[satein]

Originally Posted by XMAN26

I love how they use a synthetic bench and declare a winner when in the past, ATI has always won the syn benches but got is ass handed to it in real world apps.

And if you read deep enough on the workstation graphic world, NvDia owned all the crown for a whole range of the workstation class and force the FireGL to sell at lower price point for its less performance

The prime suspect to this is the OpenGL applications those all the workstation always used... a unix liked envelopment.

For this round, the R6xx got a booth on the OpenGL driver, which results in better support to the linux world recently. Thus, the R6xx based FireGL cards could do well against the NV for the first time over the pass serveral years.

Now, the battle is started, the price is forced to get lower by the hit of R6xx based AMD FireGL We knew all the time that one of the main reasons of NV to have big profit is to sell well at very high margin on the workstaton market.

[Rys]

Originally Posted by CJ

Specviewperf is more than "just" a simple synthetic bench. It's a pretty good predictor of graphics application performance because it uses datasets that are designed for and used by real applications like Maya, 3D Studio Max, Ensight etc. And usually it was ATI's FireGL who got it's ass whooped by NVs Quadro FX.

SPECviewperf might use real application code, but I'd question the validity of the datasets they choose to push through that code, and how it's pushed, in order to determine the score.

[Silent_Buddha]

Originally Posted by Spaceman-Spiff

I must say 3D Professor's website is pretty crappy for a review site. Still static html and every image is in GIF format . But then again, I don't know of any other websites that benchmarks the FireGL.

Speak for yourself, some of us prefer static html with basic links using gifs or jpgs.

It's the exact same content just loads a whole hell of a lot faster. Enough that it's noticable even on a 24up/2down connection.

I'll take one of those anyday over a page using flash, java, javascript, layers, animated menus, etc...

Call me old fashioned I guess. I like the bling in games. Not when I'm trying to get information.

It's nice to see ATI is finally back in the game (no pun intended) in the professional market.

Regards,
SB