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Old 03-Oct-2007, 12:03   #526
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Why new cards with more SP/TMU coming with the same branding name?
AIBs have the choice of the name in this case, my bet -> 8800GTO.
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Old 03-Oct-2007, 12:14   #527
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AIBs have the choice of the name in this case, my bet -> 8800GTO.
Last time NV was in this situation in the nv30 time when come out against 9600XT with the 5900XT, so its possible we see 8800XT or PRO cards

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NVIDIA will NOT be doing any formal launch activities, press announcements, website updates, or any other marketing around this new sku. Partners can conduct their own marketing activities around the sku as they see fit.

November after Nvidia and ATI confrontation situation as follows:

GeForce 8800 Ultra vs. ?
GeForce 8800 GTX vs. ?
GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB (new) vs. Radeon HD 2900 XT
GeForce 8800 GT 512MB vs. RV670XTX
GeForce 8800 GT 256MB vs. RV670Pro

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So, this is only the sink of G80, isn't it? Why can NV find the way to fix the NVIO-1 ASIC chip on the same die? Or this G92 has embeded the NVIO-1 on the core already?
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So, this is only the sink of G80, isn't it? Why can NV find the way to fix the NVIO-1 ASIC chip on the same die? Or this G92 has embeded the NVIO-1 on the core already?
Looking at the back of the PCB, i believe that there's no separate NVIO in this card.
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for people that don't care much about the high end because of cost and power, there's a reason to be excited. that's awesome midrange which goes well with the awesome parts you get in a midrange PC nowadays (a high X2 or a "low" C2D, 2GB ram, 500GB hdd)
Sure it's great for people who shop in that segment. But these releases do nothing to push the performance envelope or introduce anything new architecturally. So while better midrange parts are nice they're not bringing anything new to the table especially if you already own a faster card. Just disappointed that there's nothing new to talk about until Q1 08 apparently......
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Old 03-Oct-2007, 14:59   #531
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Looking at the back of the PCB, i believe that there's no separate NVIO in this card.
If you read on the SKU table, you might found it... or I might be wrong to read the wrong table

PS. I probably read the wrong table ... but why they need to put the old SKU table on the new part thread....
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If you read on the SKU table, you might found it... or I might be wrong to read the wrong table
That table refers to the 8800 GTS (old and "new" -which could either be called simply "8800 GTS" again or "8800 GTO", according to some of Nvidia's partners-), not 8800 GT, a.k.a. G92.

The new 112 sp "8800 GTS 640MB" doesn't even have to be named a "8800 GTS", it's merely a stop-gap solution to prevent the 8800 GT from stealing its customers (since this first G92 is already rumored to be hitting ~11k in 3DMark'06 at stock speeds) and, at the same time, to help in depleting the old 90nm G80 stock.

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That table refers to the 8800 GTS (old and "new" -which could either be called simply "8800 GTS" again or "8800 GTO", according to some of Nvidia's partners-), not 8800 GT, a.k.a. G92.
Ok, Thx you Just confusing...
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So there will be new 8800GTS(G92) and old 8800GTS(G80) ?

If they really used same name how we can tell which one is G80 or G92 ? @_@
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The "new" GTS is still 90nm. A good way to bump up performance at $400 and confuse everyone while doing so. Hopefully AIB's have some sense and name this thing GTO or something besides GTS.
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According to FUDzilla, the G92 launch has been brought forward to October 29th:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=3403&Itemid=1
Fudo has often in the past confused an editors day with a "launch" date. Which is not necessarily to say that's what's happening here, but it wouldn't be the first time.
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Also @Mobile1 is said that 8800GT and New-GTS will launch on 28th.
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Everything confusing here.

What's the advantage of new GTS over the old one ?
What's G92 based graphic name now ?
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Everything confusing here.

What's the advantage of new GTS over the old one ?
What's G92 based graphic name now ?
Before:
8800 GTS (320/640MB): 90nm G80 with 96 scalar processors enabled.
8800 GTX/Ultra 768MB: 90nm G80 with 128 scalar processors enabled.


Now:
8800 GT (256/512MB): new 65nm G92 GPU with x scalar processors enabled.
8800 GTS (320/640MB) -presumably old stocks-: same as before.
"new" 8800 GTS 640MB: same as before, but with 112 scalar processors enabled on the same 90nm G80.

This last one might end up being called "8800 GTO" by some partners.
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Before:
8800 GTS (320/640MB): 90nm G80 with 96 scalar processors enabled.
8800 GTX/Ultra 768MB: 90nm G80 with 128 scalar processors enabled.


Now:
8800 GT (256/512MB): new 65nm G92 GPU with x scalar processors enabled.
8800 GTS (320/640MB) -presumably old stocks-: same as before.
"new" 8800 GTS 640MB: same as before, but with 112 scalar processors enabled on the same 90nm G80.

This last one might end up being called "8800 GTO" by some partners.
What's benefit of 112 scalar processors ? make GTS faster ?
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Old 03-Oct-2007, 16:29   #541
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Yes, more SP = faster.
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What's benefit of 112 scalar processors ? make GTS faster ?
~17% more power if there is no bandwidth-limitation.

But I think Old-GTS will die, because it is to near to 8800GT and nobody would buy it.
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According to FUDzilla, the G92 launch has been brought forward to October 29th:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=3403&Itemid=1


Also (supposedly) the version of G92 launching this year will be called 8800GT, with all that this implies in terms of performance:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=3404&Itemid=1
Any news on the Nvidia lowing the price for 8800 GTX ?

oh and is the new 8800GT going to better than GTX ?

THX !
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G92-high-end has heat problems?
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May be they just should slap more heat-pipes in there.
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Why does the G92 will have heat problem when the VR-Zone told us that the GeForce 8800 GT Overclocking Is Good.

Hope it might be not a serious problem then.

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May be they just should slap more heat-pipes in there.
or maybe dual slot cooling?
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G92-high-end has heat problems?
This is exactly what I heard earlier this week. Was wondering when it would be leaked into the public. :P
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May be they just should slap more heat-pipes in there.
Or make the fan rotate a bit faster:
http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquir...iet-as-a-mouse

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Why does the G92 will have heat problem when the VR-Zone told us that the GeForce 8800 GT Overclocking Is Good.
Because they are not talking about the G92 on 8800GT?
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"Faster" would hurt ears!
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The Inq is saying that was 'a few weeks ago' though. At the same time, several websites are now claiming the launch will be earlier than expected, in late October. So wouldn't that imply the problem has been fixed already? Or am I missing something?
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