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Old 11-Nov-2006, 06:32   #2
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Nice find one, very interesting stuff.
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 06:46   #3
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lol Bad_Boy luring me back to B3D with the info on GAF. You've been real awesome as of late one, who am I kidding, you've always been awesome dude!
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 06:51   #4
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lol Bad_Boy luring me back to B3D with the info on GAF. You've been real awesome as of late one, who am I kidding, you've always been awesome dude!
What can I say, b3d is great. and indeed one is doing great with the updates.
To stay on topic though, nice to finally see what keeps the PS3 cool and quiet.
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 06:59   #5
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Booo, there is heatspreaders on the RSX+Cell, that they didn't remove so we could see the die.

And I guess this proves the PS2 hardware is contained in totality in the PS3. Even looks like the PS2 RAM is there as well.

Am I missing something about the Ram layout? Where are all the chips?

So there is a 160mm fan? Just one? So that is how they stayed "cool and quiet". As do it yourself PC modders know, the big fans push more air at lower RPM. But the standard PC size is 80mm, and the big PC case fans are 120mm. So that is one huge fan.

This article was okay, but lacked a lot of details. I'll wait for the proper Anandtech takedown, in my native language.

Too be honest the layout reminds of the Xbox 1, with how packed it is.
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:05   #6
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C'mon people, not expecting Watch-Impress to take this thing apart - and One not to bring the info - that's just naive!

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I'll wait for the proper Anandtech takedown, in my native language.
Let's get serious: Watch Impress >>> Anandtech

(I'll give you the language advantage though!)
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:07   #7
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Anyone run some of that Linux probing software through the system to see if they can detect all the specifications of various components? I don't know exactly how complicated that would be, but I was told it would be possible to do.
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:10   #8
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Hmm maybe should have posted in the Technology Forum?

This is the last year's PC Watch article for the Xbox 360. The immediate impression is the PS3 motherboard uses very few electrolytic capacitors.
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2...10/xbox360.htm
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:17   #9
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C'mon people, not expecting Watch-Impress to take this thing apart - and One not to bring the info - that's just naive!



Let's get serious: Watch Impress >>> Anandtech

(I'll give you the language advantage though!)
Are you sure? This article seems much more informative:
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2610


But yeah, PC Watch does seem good.
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:18   #10
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Nikkei Tech-on does another breakup series
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article...061111/123435/
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article...061111/123436/



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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:24   #11
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http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_32.jpg
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2005/1210/xbox56.jpg

Xbox 360 circuitry looks kinda bad.
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:25   #12
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Too be honest the layout reminds of the Xbox 1, with how packed it is.
Erm... No.
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/PC/do...11116/xbox.htm

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Are you sure? This article seems much more informative:
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2610
You know that's a Microsoft sponsored article judging from the date (1 week before the official release) right?
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Wait! Is that a universal PSU?
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:30   #14
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How very clever. At least VRAM will never overheat.
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:36   #15
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How very clever. At least VRAM will never overheat.
Aha, the article seems still updating

Another Tech-on article
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article...061111/123437/
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Wait! Is that a universal PSU?
Sure looks like it!!
That's very good to know.
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How very clever. At least VRAM will never overheat.
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semi...phics_code.pdf

RSX is using 700MHZ GDDR3.
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http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3_32.jpg
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2005/1210/xbox56.jpg

Xbox 360 circuitry looks kinda bad.
It also looks like if you took the die of every chip on the Xbox mobo and put them next to each other, you'd still be able to fit the result under any of the 4 huge heatspreaders on the PS3 board.
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:51   #19
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What are you guys talking about with 'universal PSU?'

Is it a PSU? Yes.

Will you be able to replace it with an off-the-shelf model? No.

The connector is proprietary and the form-factor is obviously non-standard.
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:54   #20
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Why are the memory modules on the same RSX die?
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What are you guys talking about with 'universal PSU?'

Is it a PSU? Yes.

Will you be able to replace it with an off-the-shelf model? No.

The connector is proprietary and the form-factor is obviously non-standard.
It is universal in a way that it accepts 100-240v, so you can import the machine to Europe and just change the cord or use adapter to make it run, instead of buying 50-100e power converter.
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Heads up that that doesn't mean the GDDR is actually clocked at that speed, just that modules capable of operation at that speed are being used.
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 07:58   #23
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It is universal in a way that it accepts 100-240v, so you can import the machine to Europe and just change the cord or use adapter to make it run, instead of buying 100e power converter.
Ok gotcha, I misinterpreted the meaning of 'universal' obviously.

(Just shows my US-centric way of thinking I guess! )
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 08:00   #24
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Wow @ X360's mobo. What a mess!

A lot of electrolytic and dialytic capacitors! I wonder which system uses power more efficiently!?
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 08:06   #25
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Wow @ X360's mobo. What a mess!

A lot of electrolytic and dialytic capacitors! I wonder which system uses power more efficiently!?
That is the picture of a non-engineering company dipping their hands into hardware manufacturing.
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