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_xxx_ · 05-Apr-2007, 09:16

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Originally Posted by Lux_

Not before summer, I'm afraid.
As they are waiting anyway, they may just throw in HL:EP2 or something.

That would rather be DNF, I think

Seriously, sorry about the constant bitching, but the whole R600 thing has really became a farce. It's not even funny to make fun of it anymore, it's that old. Oh well.

neliz · 05-Apr-2007, 09:20

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Originally Posted by Lux_

Not before summer, I'm afraid.
As they are waiting anyway, they may just throw in HL:EP2 or something.

The bundled games have been announced allready

AMD is trying to generate a Halo effect. set up a platform much like Centrino ViiV or VPro. it only takes you a new mainboard, processor and any Rx6 card to set up an AMD!Vile.. ehr.. AMD!Evil.. ehr.. no wait.. AMD!Live system and have HDCP, HDMI, HD resolution, AViVo and you know what.. we'll give you a discount, you pay $50 for a X2300XT with your new mainboard.

For all the naysayers.. sometimes it's better to wait a while than ask a girl if she goes third base when you first see her..

epicstruggle · 05-Apr-2007, 11:19

It will certainly knock me back if they can pull that off. Launching a new chipset, cpu core, and r600 will definitely shock me. Im not sure it will happen, but stranger things have happened.

Oushi · 05-Apr-2007, 11:22

i am bored from R600 rumors, I think it's time to lock this thread an never talk about it again.

trinibwoy · 05-Apr-2007, 12:25

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Originally Posted by neliz

For all the naysayers.. sometimes it's better to wait a while than ask a girl if she goes third base when you first see her..

We haven't even gotten to flirt with R600, far less see it with its top off

caffeinated · 05-Apr-2007, 13:55

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Originally Posted by trinibwoy

We haven't even gotten to flirt with R600, far less see it with its top off

Personally I'd like to flirt a little

w0mbat · 05-Apr-2007, 15:08

Typo?

http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...estionID=26661

Sobek · 05-Apr-2007, 15:54

Could be there for those who actually have sample cards?

Arty · 05-Apr-2007, 15:59

18 days to Techday?

Kaotik · 05-Apr-2007, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Sobek

Could be there for those who actually have sample cards?

But if the drivers supported X2900, shouldn't it be in the .inf's?

edit:
Possibly related, at realtek's site:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...Audio%20Codecs
"ATI HDMI Audio Device"
Most likely this is related to motherboards though, as at least I understood it so the audio on the R6xx's would be part of the gfx chip, not separate chip (so it couldn't really be realtek's, then?)

epicstruggle · 05-Apr-2007, 20:34

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Originally Posted by serenity

18 days to Techday?

Hopefully it isn't changed again.

Anarchist4000 · 05-Apr-2007, 21:07

Those drivers are for a R5xx class card that has HDMI on it. Realtek has had them posted for a while. I wondered when I saw them a while back as well.

Razor1 · 05-Apr-2007, 21:46

http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?o...=395&Itemid=59

r600 line price confirmation?

trinibwoy · 05-Apr-2007, 22:05

So if it's true does it mean R600 is slow, or is AMD cutting off Nvidia at the knees?

Bubonic · 05-Apr-2007, 22:07

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Originally Posted by trinibwoy

So if it's true does it mean R600 is slow, or is AMD cutting off Nvidia at the knees?

Either way, I would like to see 128bit bus configurations on "lower" end cards to phase out. It's about time we see a 256bit bus on a mid level card.

ChronoReverse · 05-Apr-2007, 22:22

Hrm, I couldn't care less whether the mid-range is 128bit, 64bit or 256bit as long as it's a $200 card that performs as well as the top-end card of the previous generation.

Geo · 05-Apr-2007, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Bubonic

Either way, I would like to see 128bit bus configurations on "lower" end cards to phase out. It's about time we see a 256bit bus on a mid level card.

Other than Crazy Dave's Bargain Bin skus, or Jen-Hsun's Wacky World of Deals skus, are you seeing any evidence of that happening? I don't know that I'd call X1950 Pro a true midrange part. But even if we did, it was a much later release than the rest of the family so I'd be hesitant to draw "from now on" conclusions from it.

Bubonic · 05-Apr-2007, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Geo

Other than Crazy Dave's Bargain Bin skus, or Jen-Hsun's Wacky World of Deals skus, are you seeing any evidence of that happening? I don't know that I'd call X1950 Pro a true midrange part. But even if we did, it was a much later release than the rest of the family so I'd be hesitant to draw "from now on" conclusions from it.

I'm not saying they are 256bit. I don't mean to come out like that. It would be one of those nice things to see though.

I'm going to keep a close eye on the RV630 XT for 200.00.

turtle · 06-Apr-2007, 00:45

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Originally Posted by Bubonic

I'm going to keep a close eye on the RV630 XT for 200.00.

Yeah, me too...but also the part directly above that, which that price breakdown didn't help on. It's safe to assume there will be at least 3 SKUs from R600. That says one is $500, but is it the XTX (1GB gddr4) or the XT (512MB DDR3), and more importantly, where will the other SKUs fall, especially the part taking on the GTS 320MB. If that part is priced well after prices settle, breaking into that ~$250 midrange pricepoint, even if MSRP is higher, and performs well, then to me the 6800gt does indeed wear red and I shall be a happy camper. Hopefully the part filling that price point will come sooner, rather than later like the x1900gt/x1950pro...I really don't feel like waiting for RV670 hoping my dream will come true. If they can't do it though, I too will prolly take the RV630XT/8800gts route waiting for that card to emerge.

Russell · 06-Apr-2007, 09:00

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Originally Posted by turtle

Yeah, me too...but also the part directly above that, which that price breakdown didn't help on. It's safe to assume there will be at least 3 SKUs from R600. That says one is $500, but is it the XTX (1GB gddr4) or the XT (512MB DDR3)

It'll be the R600XT. No way they can price something with 1GB of memory at that point.

Plus the rumors have been that R600XT will appear before XTX, so that kind of makes sense assuming these release prices aren't simply invented.

Twinkie · 06-Apr-2007, 09:32

So they are releasing the X2900XT first? But if thats ATi's second best card, wouldnt that mean that it might not be as fast as the GTX?

People have waited for R600 for so long, will they be able to launch their second best card?

Unless this performs on par with the GTX or abit faster.

Ultra vs XTX
GTX vs XT
GTS vs XL

?

OT - The new 101.70 drivers gives a sneak preview of what is to come from the nVIDIA. The 8800 ultra. Guess R600 is coming closer to see the light of the day.

neliz · 06-Apr-2007, 09:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twinkie

So they are releasing the X2900XT first? But if thats ATi's second best card, wouldnt that mean that it might not be as fast as the GTX?

there isn't such a big performance delta between the XT and XTX, if one is faster, the other will be as well..

Russell · 06-Apr-2007, 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twinkie

So they are releasing the X2900XT first? But if thats ATi's second best card, wouldnt that mean that it might not be as fast as the GTX?

Such is the rumor. *Hands you some salt*

Robin B · 06-Apr-2007, 15:13

A little more rumors from Fuad.

Quote:

April in Tunis, Tunisia + Barcelona demo
ATI will hold its R600 tech days on the Monday 23rd till Tuesday 24rd of April in Tunis, Tunisia in African continent. This is the first major graphic launch to take place in Africa.

DAAMIT invited bunch of journalists about 185 if we remember correctly for this event and ATI will show some hot things such as RD790 chipsets and ten display R600 setup powered with Agena FX CPU (a desktop version of native quad core also known as Barcelona).

R600 will debut in external version as well and all this will be demonstrated on the 23rd and 24th of April in Tunisia.

The official launch will be in May probably at the middle of the month when ATI manages to get any R600 1024 MB cards out of production.

overclocked_enthusiasm · 06-Apr-2007, 15:48

I am going to stick to my earlier assertion that R600 was delayed to show off Barcelona. Barcelona is vastly more important to AMD than the entire R600 family is at this point in time.

IF, and I do mean IF, AMD is able to show off the fastest CPU, GPU and chipset at the same time they will have a marketing coup on their hands. I have a hard time beleiving that AMD will show the x2900 XT if it is NOT faster than the 8800 GTX since it would tarnish the first showing of Barcelona.

Therefore, I think AMD is looking for a perceived triple win in Tunisia with CPU, GPU and chipset.

05-Apr-2007, 11:19	#1553
epicstruggle Passenger on Serenity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Object in Space Posts: 1,891	It will certainly knock me back if they can pull that off. Launching a new chipset, cpu core, and r600 will definitely shock me. Im not sure it will happen, but stranger things have happened. __________________ "everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts"

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w0mbat Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 233	Typo? http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...estionID=26661 Last edited by w0mbat; 05-Apr-2007 at 15:18.

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05-Apr-2007, 15:59	#1559
Arty KEPLER Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,893	18 days to Techday? __________________ People like you - Silent_Buddha laying an epic smackdown on XMAN26's double standards. So you're mixing apples and oranges to calculate grapes and then compare it to apples. - silent_guy's witty retort on sweeping comparisons.

05-Apr-2007, 22:05	#1564
trinibwoy Meh Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York Posts: 9,810	So if it's true does it mean R600 is slow, or is AMD cutting off Nvidia at the knees? __________________ What the deuce!?

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Oushi Registered Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: EG Posts: 34	i am bored from R600 rumors, I think it's time to lock this thread an never talk about it again.

05-Apr-2007, 21:07	#1562
Anarchist4000 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somewhere, IN USA Posts: 313	Those drivers are for a R5xx class card that has HDMI on it. Realtek has had them posted for a while. I wondered when I saw them a while back as well.

05-Apr-2007, 21:46	#1563
Razor1 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NY, NY Posts: 2,680	http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?o...=395&Itemid=59 r600 line price confirmation?

05-Apr-2007, 22:22	#1566
ChronoReverse Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 245	Hrm, I couldn't care less whether the mid-range is 128bit, 64bit or 256bit as long as it's a $200 card that performs as well as the top-end card of the previous generation.

06-Apr-2007, 09:32	#1571
Twinkie Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 386	So they are releasing the X2900XT first? But if thats ATi's second best card, wouldnt that mean that it might not be as fast as the GTX? People have waited for R600 for so long, will they be able to launch their second best card? Unless this performs on par with the GTX or abit faster. Ultra vs XTX GTX vs XT GTS vs XL ? OT - The new 101.70 drivers gives a sneak preview of what is to come from the nVIDIA. The 8800 ultra. Guess R600 is coming closer to see the light of the day.

06-Apr-2007, 15:48	#1575
overclocked_enthusiasm Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: United States Posts: 287	I am going to stick to my earlier assertion that R600 was delayed to show off Barcelona. Barcelona is vastly more important to AMD than the entire R600 family is at this point in time. IF, and I do mean IF, AMD is able to show off the fastest CPU, GPU and chipset at the same time they will have a marketing coup on their hands. I have a hard time beleiving that AMD will show the x2900 XT if it is NOT faster than the 8800 GTX since it would tarnish the first showing of Barcelona. Therefore, I think AMD is looking for a perceived triple win in Tunisia with CPU, GPU and chipset. __________________ "An ounce of fat is worth a pound of flavor"

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