[Geeforcer]

Originally Posted by mao5

http://forums.amd.com/forum/messagev...VIEWTMP=Linear

Don't believe everything you read on the forums.

[Unknown Soldier]

Originally Posted by Skrying

According to my sources the price is actually $401.

lol

[mao5]

I don't think ATI will make money on XT, XT financial loose wil be compensated by AMD

[ChrisRay]

Originally Posted by Geeforcer

Don't believe everything you read on the forums.

Call me slow here. But what "exactly" was being linked too?

[Bjorn]

Originally Posted by mao5

I don't think ATI will make money on XT, XT financial loose wil be compensated by AMD

Compensated how, with money from the CPU side ? I'm guessing that your joking if that's what you mean.

Sorry, AMD needs to make money and the R600 is released so that they can make money from it. Releasing the XT at a 400$ pricetag seems like a bad decision businesswise if it performs like the GTX. Unless there's some caveats with it. Lets say that it only performs like the GTX in DX 10 games, or in some but not all games.

[Skrying]

Originally Posted by Bjorn

Compensated how, with money from the CPU side ? I'm guessing that your joking if that's what you mean.

Besides the recent confirmation of a price point of $401. I was also told of a rc drv that makes the R600 much improved in performance. The only issue is that the rc drv currently only works on rc drv AMD certified platforms. These rc drv AMD certified platforms are going to be extremely regulated containing the following:

1x AMD Semporno X3 29000+
2x AMD Semporno-mate X3i motherboard
1.5x 2GB AMD Semporno-rapid RAM
5x AMD Semporno-hard drive in 1TB, 2TB, and 1MB varients

You heard it here first.

[gunblade]

That is really surprising. AMD could not afford to lose any money now. They are burning their cash right now and if they have to lose money in order to sell R600, you can surely bet that there won't R700 anymore.

[mao5]

Originally Posted by Bjorn

Compensated how, with money from the CPU side ? I'm guessing that your joking if that's what you mean.

Sorry, AMD needs to make money and the R600 is released so that they can make money from it. Releasing the XT at a 400$ pricetag seems like a bad decision businesswise if it performs like the GTX. Unless there's some caveats with it. Lets say that it only performs like the GTX in DX 10 games, or in some but not all games.

sorry, the truth is AMD can not make a cent on XT.

[Geeforcer]

Originally Posted by ChrisRay

Call me slow here. But what "exactly" was being linked too?

I can only presume this:

Before I go to a "special place" and also getting a new system built, so I'll be offline until after work tomorrow.. unless someone builds it for me in due course....

Don't believe those figures, just yet, even if you be intellectually inspired. There are 4 guys I know, 2 independent and 2 AMD workers, who have clearly told me OPPOSITE news to that just this week and they own a HD 2900 XT, with 2 having the XTX. They're not immature kids or online geeks even, they work for corporations and are professionals.

I've just talked with an AMD employee, who was also my dad's friend. (God bless him)

He called it utter shens!

No fanboism, no sheepism, no blindness or stupidity, no kidding. He ran HIS HD 2900 XT while I was on the phone with him and he also owns a XFX 8800 GTX XXX at 655/2100 watercooled.

He said he can't say anything other than it's very impressive, quiet silent in a rig and nothing you would be disappointed with.

Hoping to not give away too much, he also said those figures are BADLY low compared to the actual card he has with RC drivers that will be final.

I didn't ask him what could be wrong with that bench, he just said it's complete BS and that the final release card murders the G80 GTX.

I love the whole "Didn't say anything other then...." followed by the highlighted part... and the fact that the person has been relying on Fudzilla/INQ for his information up to this point, so this tsunami of insider access must be a very recent development.

Anyway, I will make this bet to anyone willing to take it:

Once Hexus publishes their review, anyone who accepts the bet will get $5 (USD) from me for every test XT beats GTX in (both clocked at default). Conversely, the bettor will owe me $5 for every test that GTX wins. The bets are to be settled within a week after review's publication, via PayPal. And no, Rys can't particiapte

[Farhan]

Originally Posted by mao5

sorry, the truth is AMD can not make a cent on XT.

If it really smacks the GTX like you say, then why can't they price it accordingly?

[epicstruggle]

Originally Posted by Skrying

Besides the recent confirmation of a price point of $401. I was also told of a rc drv that makes the R600 much improved in performance. The only issue is that the rc drv currently only works on rc drv AMD certified platforms. These rc drv AMD certified platforms are going to be extremely regulated containing the following:

1x AMD Semporno X3 29000+
2x AMD Semporno-mate X3i motherboard
1.5x 2GB AMD Semporno-rapid RAM
5x AMD Semporno-hard drive in 1TB, 2TB, and 1MB varients

You heard it here first.

Wow, you werent kidding about it being extremely regulated.

[mao5]

Originally Posted by Geeforcer

I can only presume this:



I love the whole "Didn't say anything other then...." followed by the highlighted part... and the fact that the person has been relying on Fudzilla/INQ for his information up to this point, so this tsunami of insider access must be a very recent development.

Anyway, I will make this bet to anyone willing to take it:

Once Hexus publishes their review, anyone who accepts the bet will get $5 (USD) from me for every test XT beats GTX in (both clocked at default). Conversely, they bettor will owe me $5 for every test that GTX wins. The bets are to be settled within a week after review's publication, via PayPal. And no, Rys can't particiapte

Why Hexus?

[Geeforcer]

Because I have high confidence in the quality of their reviews.

Why, you have alternative suggestions?

EDIT: LOL, I completely forgot that B3D also does the comparative testing in their reviews now That's also acceptible, provied that artilce doesn't get delayued by 4 months.

[clement]

Can it be a preview?

'cause if they do HD-dvd/blu-ray tests you might have some problems...

[mao5]

Originally Posted by Geeforcer

Because I have high confidence in the quality of their reviews.

Why, you have alternative suggestions?

EDIT: LOL, I completely forgot that B3D also does the comparative testing in their reviews now That's also acceptible, provied that artilce doesn't get delayued by 4 months.

come on, we should get a list of review sites. and vote for the best bet review site.

[Geeforcer]

Originally Posted by clement

Can it be a preview?

'cause if they do HD-dvd/blu-ray tests you might have some problems...

LOL, we are talking about tests related to 3D rendering.

[mao5]

Originally Posted by clement

Can it be a preview?

'cause if they do HD-dvd/blu-ray tests you might have some problems...

two more, dx10 gs test and MSAA+MRT test, seems I win 10 bucks or 70 chinese dollars.

[mao5]

Originally Posted by Geeforcer

LOL, we are talking about tests related to 3D rendering.

give some credit, you say "for every test XT beats GTX"

[Geeforcer]

Originally Posted by mao5

come on, we should get a list of review sites. and vote for the best bet review site.

So what's wrong with Hexus or B3D?

[mao5]

Originally Posted by Geeforcer

So what's wrong with Hexus or B3D?

I didn't say them wrong, I think since you want sb else to participate your bet, you should give more choice, and we all person in this forum vote for one.

[Geeforcer]

Originally Posted by mao5

give some credit, you say "for every test XT beats GTX"

I can see it now: "As the last 137 audio acceleration tests show, GTX still does not support it, unlike R600".

The terms: 3D rendering, B3D or Hexus, whichever posts their review first, $5 per test. Take it or leave it.

EDIT: LOL, I think B3D had over 50 tests in their review. Once XT "murders" GTX, someone will become fabulously wealthy.

[mao5]

Originally Posted by Geeforcer

I can see it now: "As the last 137 audio acceleration tests show, GTX still does not support it, unlike R600".

The terms: 3D rendering, B3D or Hexus, whichever posts their review first, $5 per test. Take it or leave it.

LOL

[mao5]

Originally Posted by Geeforcer

I can see it now: "As the last 137 audio acceleration tests show, GTX still does not support it, unlike R600".

The terms: 3D rendering, B3D or Hexus, whichever posts their review first, $5 per test. Take it or leave it.

EDIT: LOL, I think B3D had over 50 tests in their review. Once XT "murders" GTX, someone will become fabulously wealthy.

50x5bucks? you are kidding

[BlizzardOne]

Originally Posted by BRiT

No, no. They are 16 Extreme TMUs.

That's what I was gonna say!!

[Geeforcer]

Originally Posted by mao5

50x5bucks? you are kidding

No, I 100% serious.