[Shifty Geezer]

I've a WD Scorpio Blue in my laptop and I'm very impressed. Quietest, coolest laptop HDD I've ever known. That'd be my choice if buying a replacement PS3 HDD.

[BoardBonobo]

I've put 500Gb WD Scorpio Blues in both my PS3 Slim and my laptop.

Both a good thrashing on a daily basis and I've had zero problems with them. They seem to maintain a good data spread so there is no real noticeable slow down through fragmentation and they support SMART which is a real bonus if you're precious about your data!

And on top of that they run very quietly and fairly coolly. I'd recommend it for a PS3 upgrade.

[corduroygt]

29 minute GT5 install with my 7200rpm 320GB drive I took out of my laptop (put an ssd in the laptop) folks...rpm does matter.

[rabidrabbit]

I remember some tests that were run by some website that installs (game and updates) benefitted the most from the 7200 rpm drive, but loading times were improved by only a second or so.
Definitely, a 7200 rpm is recommended nowadays, as they're really no more expensive than 5400 rpm drives, and there even seem to be more to choose form.

[RenegadeRocks]

Originally Posted by rabidrabbit

I remember some tests that were run by some website that installs (game and updates) benefitted the most from the 7200 rpm drive, but loading times were improved by only a second or so.
Definitely, a 7200 rpm is recommended nowadays, as they're really no more expensive than 5400 rpm drives, and there even seem to be more to choose form.

I went to a vendor but he seems to say that the only laptop HDD available in the region is a Seagate 500gb HDD 5400rpm, 8mb Cache. He did not have a model number, but says that thats the only one available.

If all laptop HDDs work with the ps3, should I just buy it? I think I won't be able to find a 16mb cache drive in my city. Finding a 7200 rpm will also be difficult from what it seems.
If it aint' that big a difference, should I just go for the Seagate 500GB 5400rpm 8mb cache? I hope all seagate models work !

[RenegadeRocks]

Is this the WD BLue drive you guys are talking about ? It is 5400rpm and 8mb cache:
http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=589

ISn't this one better? but looking at the dimensions mentioned, it says 2.75in in the diagram but mention 2.5" in the model description. It is 7200 rpm and 16 mb cache. has anyone used this one their PS3? Will it fit ? and work?
http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=14478


Its been a long long time since I bought an HDD, so forgive the noobness !

[patsu]

Yap, that's the one I used. I bought it when it first came out. So there should be better ones on the market today.

[RenegadeRocks]

Originally Posted by patsu

Yap, that's the one I used. I bought it when it first came out. So there should be better ones on the market today.

Hmmm...I think I will just go with that considering its a well tested and quiet drive. Anyway, its just a game system, a few minutes more while installing a game isn't really that big a pain. Considering there's a difference of INR 1000 ($20) listed between them, I;ll just go with the cheaper WD Blue one.

Also, I bought a WD Elements SE 500gb external drive today to back up stuff (my work on PC) as well backing up my ps3 before swapping drives. Well, i deleted all game data and demos I had on my PS3, as well as all music n movies. All that is left is some PSN games I bought. It has 19gb free out of the 37 gb capacity of the HDD.

So, somehow it still has 18gb of data which I can't understand !!!! THE PSN games can't be more than a few GBs. They can't be more than 4-5gbs. So, what is hogging rest of the space ?!?!?!

I couldn't find any answer for it, so I started backing it up, and it says it will take around 4 hours and 20 mins to back it up ! Another shocker ! PS3 sure has its own mysterious ways !

[RenegadeRocks]

Bah ! WD is out of stock with all local retailers ! Will have to go with Seagate Momentus 5400rpm 8mb cache !

[RenegadeRocks]

Ok , got a Seagate 500gb HDD. But a big issue has happened:

The backup aint restoring properly ! After the complete restoring process, it spewed out an error, i didn't note the number. THen I checked the ps3 and only some of the user accounts were back, and except for my photos, nothing else has been restored !

As for the user accounts, it said these "unregistered" user accounts have been found: followed by the list, in which two of my accounts were missing.

All my save games, my PSN games are gone !!!!!!!!

I have started the restore process again just hoping it would go right this time !

[RenegadeRocks]

2nd try ! No succes same stupid error : 800283F0 .

I have backed up and restored stuff earlier too when my ps3 was replaced and didn't have any issue. This seems so fucked up and strange ! All my saves gone !

Add to the woe, I have already formatted the 40GB HDD that came out of the ps3, so can't try to backup again ! Woe !

EDIT: Save games are back ! but my PSN stuff and game data is gone ! Its kinda messed. will need time to figure out !

[patsu]

In the mean time, send mail to Sony support. I'm going to upgrade my office PS3 also. ^_^

[BRiT]

Which firmware are you on? I read some reports of OFW 3.56 causing issues in certain models with hard drive upgrades.

[patsu]

I think I will wait for Cloud Save in 3.60 to activate, then perform my HDD backup.

My previous restores all worked, but just in case…

There are a few suggestions in this thread:
http://www.community.eu.playstation....e/m-p/11861731

After upgrading to a 500gig drive, I was continually getting the message "The restore operation could not be completed. The system will restart. (800283F0)" when attempting to restore from my backup.

I have just found that this appears to have been due to my PSP being registered to my PS3. Unregistered it, completed a backup, swapped in the new formatted HDD, restore completed successfully.

you may also find if you had any locked saves in that backup you did you will get that same error

http://community.eu.playstation.com/...lp/m-p/5020531

I reduced the size of the backup by deleting all my installed games (except for PSN games) which reduced the total size down to 10GB ~15 mins of backup time.

For some ungodly reason this worked and I finally got my backup to restore without error…

All I did was stop the controller from going to sleep while doing the restore.. Mine was having the same fault.. Game saves restored fine but none of my game data was there (had 2 delete games because they would not open etc) redid backup pressing controller buttons occasionally so it would not go to sleep and had no problem I think when you shrink down the backup size it does not give the controller time to go to sleep so also fixes problem.... You should also be able to turn off the controller power saving setting and should also fix this so u don't need to sit through restore….

Just so you know, that the last attempt was successful. It looks like you can only backup/restore save games. I didn't delete any save games. I deleted everything else tho.... WHAT KIND OF BACKUP/RESTORE IS IT??????? The backup size was 13GB in the end. ALL it contained was game saves, so WHY THE ***** IT WAS 13GB???

[RenegadeRocks]

@Patsu: Thanx ! I had read all that before posting here. My previous restore when my PS3 got replaced had gone fine too, but at that time I had deleted everything except game saves as I didn't have a big enough USB drive.

Basically, the Backup utility is a POS ! Just like :

It looks like you can only backup/restore save games. I didn't delete any save games. I deleted everything else tho.... WHAT KIND OF BACKUP/RESTORE IS IT??????? The backup size was 13GB in the end. ALL it contained was game saves, so WHY THE ***** IT WAS 13GB???

This is the exact case here. The backup utility said that the backup would be 13 GB and then when it was done, tht too after bloody 4 hours, it said the backup is 11 GB. It felt fine as I had my PSN purchases and Game updates for Uncharted 1 & 2 and Heavy Rain in there. But when restoring, the fucking "utility" restored only game saves, some pics I had and my themes ! For gods sake what was that 11 GB for?!!??! and it took bloody FOUR HOURS to backup just save games a themes ! and made an 11 gb backup for it !

I did some thinking, and I think the clue lies in this:
"These unregistered users were found and will be restored" (or something like that.)

I think , for some f*ck all reason, the backup utility might be thinking that this is not the same ps3 on which the original users were created and thus does not replace my purchased games ! It can't be , though, as PS3 ID can't be changed or mistaken by the software. But that seems to be the only logical explanation. It thinks, maybe, I am trying to restore the backup to a different ps3 than the one it was backed up from, so it doesn't backup content that needs activation. but that doesn't explain it not restoring my Funky Lab Rat demo!

Either that Or the backup utility is a pile of crap shit ! It took bloody 4 hours to backup - nothing !

EDIT: I was on FW 3.55.

[patsu]

Are those user accounts still in active use ? May be Sony has purged/deactivated them from PSN ?

[Shifty Geezer]

Had you activated your account on the new HDD? That is, before restoring did you create your main account and go online and check the "activated" option to make sure it was? Because otherwise the backup will be seeing all this secure content and be being told this isn't the right HDD for this PS3.

TBH that shouldn't be an issue. The backup should check the PS3 ID number of the system it's being restored onto is the same as the ID it was backed up from, but it may be worth a try. Sadly Sony follows the principles of meaningless, undocumented error codes that don't help guide people to solutions.

[RenegadeRocks]

Originally Posted by patsu

Are those user accounts still in active use ? May be Sony has purged/deactivated them from PSN ?

Of course they all are ! I play from my EU account as PSN wasn't avaialabel in India when I bought my PS3, and buy content from my Indian account. They are very much still active. I signed into both of them just now.

Originally Posted by Shifty Geezer

Had you activated your account on the new HDD? That is, before restoring did you create your main account and go online and check the "activated" option to make sure it was? Because otherwise the backup will be seeing all this secure content and be being told this isn't the right HDD for this PS3.

TBH that shouldn't be an issue. The backup should check the PS3 ID number of the system it's being restored onto is the same as the ID it was backed up from, but it may be worth a try. Sadly Sony follows the principles of meaningless, undocumented error codes that don't help guide people to solutions.

Yes, since the hardware ID cannot get changed under any circumstances, I wonder how it can think it isn't the same ps3? And accounts themselves are also part of the system restore.

Anyways, it did not restore free content either, like my Funky Lab Rat demo or the game updates (HUGE game updates) of Heavy Rain, LBP and Uncharted 2. Which means the issue isn't about secure content or DRM, but some other fuck up on Backup Utility's part.

> Means you won't see me online in any of my games for a long time. Basically, I have to re-update every freaking game and re-download every PSN game I bought ever since I got my PS3 years back ! Heavy Rain doesn't recognise my saves as they were from the updated Move version of the game. The update is more than 1 GB !!! And the last time updated LBP, I had to go through 11 updates.

[Shifty Geezer]

I really don't think the backup tool is worth the hassle. It's quicker and easier and more reliable to back up everything manually. Althought that can't be done with game data, can it? Meaning having to update. If Sony could just provided latest-version patches it'd probably be a lot quicker.

[patsu]

Originally Posted by Shifty Geezer

I really don't think the backup tool is worth the hassle. It's quicker and easier and more reliable to back up everything manually. Althought that can't be done with game data, can it? Meaning having to update. If Sony could just provided latest-version patches it'd probably be a lot quicker.

I remember I used the backup tool, and then copy as many items manually as possible too -- just in case. @_@

[.Melchiah.]

I recently upgraded my EU launch unit's 60GB HDD to 320GB Western Digital Scorpio Black (7200rpm, 16MB cache).

I bought a new set of screwdrivers and a pair of pliers, and tried to be very careful when removing the notorious screws, but still I managed to nearly destroy one of the screws due to a small slip. Other than that, the upgrading went like a charm. The backup utility saved all my files to external HDD, including copy protected saves, and to my surprise it even saved all my settings and PSN passwords. The backup file's size was 47GB, and it took roughly six hours (iirc) to save it on external HDD. Restoring it was much quicker process, luckily.

Finally no need to delete older files to make room for new ones. I've also noticed a minor speed boost in installing and loading times.