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Old 18-Oct-2006, 12:09   #76
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R6xx to Utilise 80nm and 65nm Processes

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Old 18-Oct-2006, 12:46   #77
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http://eetimes.com/news/latest/showA...leID=193101194


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We have heard about large cards - like ones 12" long that will require new system chassis designs to hold them - and massive power requirements to make them run.

Why shouldn't the new cards with ATI's R600 require 200-250 watts a piece and the equivalent of a 500 W power supply to run in CrossFire or G80 in SLI?
http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/10/18..._uk/page2.html

12"? Yeah, that'd take a new chassis for me, and I have a nice big full tower of recent vintage. I'm remembering when everyone gasped over the 10" X1800XL AIW.

I hope that's from the fever swamps, or at least the non-optimized engineering sample.
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Pretty soon we'll need a whole motherboard just for the graphics card(s).
Let's call it "sisterboard"
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Old 19-Oct-2006, 06:16   #80
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The launch of the R600 is expected to be somewhere around Christmas this year. http://www.cooltechzone.com/Special_..._200604102280/
What really caught my attention is R600 will be sometime this year 2006.
So after all it will not be that far away release time after G80.

So far the possibility could be like this:

Model ATI Radeon 6
Core Code R600
Transistor Count Over 500 million
Manufacturing Process (microns) 0.08
Core Clock 600-650MHz
Vertex Shaders unify
Rendering (Pixel) Pipelines 64
Pixel Shader Processors unify
Texture Mapping Units (TMU) 32
Raster Operator units (ROP) 32
Memory Clock 2.0GHz+ DDR4
DDR Memory Bus 256 or 512-bit
Memory Bandwidth depends GB/s
Ring Bus Memory Controller 512-bit
PCI Express Interface x16
Molex Power Connectors Yes
Max Threads 1024
API Compliancy DX10 Shader Model 4.0
Memory Capacity 1024MB
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That site seems to have even less credibility than Inq/Fuad. Just a few stories ago, they were claiming G80: 1) is delayed won't make deadline. 2) is just a G70 with DX10 bolted on. 3) NVidia is "redoing" the chip design and because of this, ATI will beat them to market. Uh huh.

Twice the site has used the phrase "designed from the ground up for DX10" which seems to be a PR talking point, I'm gathering, a strategy upcoming to be used against G80. G80 will be "not truly designed for DX10" whereas R600 will be "built from the ground up" for DX10.
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What really caught my attention is R600 will be sometime this year 2006.
So after all it will not be that far away release time after G80.
Did you see the date on that article ?


Both G80 and R600 have been delayed a bit because of Vista's own delays and other issues, but nothing serious.
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Did you see the date on that article ? :roll
What I read was something to think about; I never found a website that would be able to tell exact day+time when a company will release their new technology unless they (ATI) reveal themselves about it...

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The r600 cooler ? Is the GeCube 1950 pro -

3 PCIe slots, they remember? -

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20061019PB200.html

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WTF a 3 slot 1950? Why? Did Gecube go off the deep end?
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WTF a 3 slot 1950? Why? Did Gecube go off the deep end?
it's a overclocked version
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it's a overclocked version
Still 3 slot cooler for an original 1 slot design .
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Still 3 slot cooler for an original 1 slot design .
it's very silent too
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The Inq had another blurp about R600. GDDR3 parts codenamed UFO thanx to Samsung screwing up predictions about GDDR4 availability: http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=35198
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http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/117/1wf0.jpg

there you have it
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not mine , i'm just the messenger of fun
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not mine , i'm just the messenger of fun
shh..don't say it too loudly, Fudo might write a story about it..
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I want dat separate 20MB memory controller chip thingy now :P
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That one musta come from the Rydermark presentation a couple of weeks back
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Old 19-Oct-2006, 13:32   #97
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http://www.ixbt.com/video2/images/r5...00xtx-chip.jpg

You do not have compassion of us ted.

and sorry for my bad english

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If it was posted before, I apologise for that. It's a news from Digitimes...
ATI schedules 45nm production at TSMC for 2008
It's interesting to note on the news is here...
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Edward Chou, marketing director of ATI Technologies Asia-Pacific division, stated that yield rates on 80nm technology production at Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) remain stable. ATI has been working closely with the foundry, according to Chou, adding that the company is looking to adopt the 45nm node by 2008. ATI began 80nm production at TSMC at the end of 2005 and started production of its 65nm-made chips from the middle of this year.
Do anyone know what kind of ATi chip that would adopt this 65nm node of the TSMC by the middle of this year?
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The Inq had another blurp about R600. GDDR3 parts codenamed UFO thanx to Samsung screwing up predictions about GDDR4 availability: http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=35198
I wouldnt of expected mainstream parts to have GDDR4 anyway to keep the premium and costs to manufacture low. Those parts dont tend to be terribly bandwidth limited regardless.
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Old 19-Oct-2006, 18:21   #100
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Do anyone know what kind of ATi chip that would adopt this 65nm node of the TSMC by the middle of this year?
Those should be the test-wafer runs i heard about in April, to qualify their next process nodes for each IHVs needs. Since ATi themselves stated that their next line-up will be a split between 80nm and 65nm production, i think you can guess which ASICs they are referring to.
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