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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:11   #726
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Ugh mine eyes! Can anyone have the audacity to count the pins?
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:15   #727
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Whoa that's a shitload of pins!
yeah no kidding, maybe there's still hope for a 512 interface?
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:17   #728
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hmm looks like Trumpsuio's pin count of 2000 is correct?
First estimate: 2140 pins.
What a monster...
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:19   #729
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how many pins does the g80 have? I know its not a good estimate but just wondering.
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:19   #730
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yeah no kidding, maybe there's still hope for a 512 interface?
Unless somebody has a good alternative explanation I'm at the point where I'm expecting something big in the memory arena.
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:26   #731
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ATI





I counted roughly 600 additional pins, from the sides only!!!(roughly 150 on each side) I forgot to include the additional pins in the center as well, danm. My guess is 800 to a 1000 new pins.


512bit???
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:30   #732
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RV570 80nm 230mm2 330mi
--->
R600 80nm 430 mm2 =~ 617mi ???

bye
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:32   #733
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Unless somebody has a good alternative explanation I'm at the point where I'm expecting something big in the memory arena.
Me too, that's really put the cat among the pigeons.

FUCK

So, ahem, for the 65nm refresh ...

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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:37   #734
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Now wth does that core have that needs such monster bw?
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:37   #735
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So, ahem, for the 65nm refresh ...
Heh, well if we're lucky the 65nm refresh die will be just as big as the 80nm one
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:38   #736
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So, anyone out there still believing in 512 bit bus?

Well maybe, if they use a wireless bus, or magic...

So as you were saying??
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:39   #737
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First estimate: 2140 pins.
What a monster...
I counted 2140 as well. 512bit memory bus ftw?
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So, what is that other thing then? Is it their version of NVIO?

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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:45   #739
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Counted 2200 pins. (Actually counted 2204 pins, but who's counting? , It's a nicer round number)
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:48   #740
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2254... maybe nVidia was correct?
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 22:56   #741
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Heh, well if we're lucky the 65nm refresh die will be just as big as the 80nm one
Hey, well I'm just basking in my apparent glorified wrongness from earlier.

I really can't figure out what the refresh will be - unless there'll be no refresh and this multi-die R700 follows in short order.

Does it get easier to have a tighter pin/ball spacing on smaller packages?

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w00t!

512-bit ... oh, come on -- 768 is the latest groove now.
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2254... maybe nVidia was correct?
Damn, this is funny. It's a proper soap opera.

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Old 24-Nov-2006, 23:00   #744
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[IM]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/Genocide737/R600_3.jpg[/IMG]

So, what is that other thing then? Is it their version of NVIO?

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No, intel core2duo.
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BTW, the pin layout is very similar to the R5x0 one, isn't it?
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No, intel core2duo.
yeah I'm sure that was a serious question....
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 23:14   #747
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So, anyone out there still believing in 512 bit bus?

Well maybe, if they use a wireless bus, or magic...



Still doing my free AA dance.

The angle of the core may very well have something to do with the configuration of the new PCB which is reportedly packed and not much longer then the X1800/X1900 PCB. Its got a little....shall we say girth?
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Old 24-Nov-2006, 23:19   #749
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yeah I'm sure that was a serious question....
Er, actually I was being serious, I saw the fuzzy writing on it and gave up!

But yeah, looking properly I can see it's just about legible.

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Old 24-Nov-2006, 23:20   #750
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Im thinking this card will have 1gb of vram most definately and if its 512bit memory interface, then we are talking about 16 memory chips on one PCB

What is the exact pin count on the G80? it would be great if someone could have a side by side comparison between the G80 die WITHOUT the heat spreader and the leaked shots of the R600 core. (Also a shot of the backside of the G80 core so that we can have a comparison on the number of pins and layout.)
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