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Old 09-Nov-2006, 16:12   #276
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What's going to happen if someone doesn't have an internet connection, but owns a game that requires the update? Will the game have the update on the disk? I'm only curious, because the retail version of the games they had didn't update their system....maybe because it was a TEST system?
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Old 09-Nov-2006, 16:20   #277
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What's going to happen if someone doesn't have an internet connection, but owns a game that requires the update? Will the game have the update on the disk? I'm only curious, because the retail version of the games they had didn't update their system....maybe because it was a TEST system?
They worked that out on the PSP, so I imagine it'd work the same way.

If the game requires a higher firmware than the shipping firmware, it will have it on the disc -- that's how the PSP works. I don't imagine we'll see any games at launch that will require more than firmware 1.0.
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Old 09-Nov-2006, 16:48   #278
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They worked that out on the PSP, so I imagine it'd work the same way.

If the game requires a higher firmware than the shipping firmware, it will have it on the disc -- that's how the PSP works. I don't imagine we'll see any games at launch that will require more than firmware 1.0.
Yep, that's how it works. I think among others Ridge Racer requires you to update (to 1.01 I think), which is included on the disc.
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 02:45   #279
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User guide is up
http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...ent/index.html
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 03:06   #280
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OMG! So Cool!
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 03:14   #281
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OMG! So Cool!
Yeah theres tons to read, I'm still not even half way done yet. Lots of good stuff there.
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 09:27   #282
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UPLOAD - Only content saved under (Photo) can be uploaded from the hard disk.
Hmm, i hope they will expand this feature in future.

USB Device - Play video files saved on a USB mass storage device.
Is USB HDD included here? Can it read directory structure of any USB memory device?

During an update, the power button on the system front is not active.
Same thing happens also with bunch of other options. [Formatting, instaling Linux]

Restore PS3™ System - Delete all hard disk content and restore the system software to its default settings.
Are they expecting some problems may surface in PS3 OS? So they made this feature?

Default System - Set which system software to use by default when turning on the system.
Cool. Boot into linux instantly...

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Old 10-Nov-2006, 09:59   #283
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Restore PS3™ System - Delete all hard disk content and restore the system software to its default settings.
Are they expecting some problems may surface in PS3 OS? So they made this feature?
chill.... Every laptop computer has that feature.
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 10:06   #284
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Japanese instructions for swapping the HDD with another one:

http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?...209563663&p=12

http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?...209563664&p=13

http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?...209563665&p=14

I somehow doubt it voids your warranty if they're showing you how to do it!
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 10:14   #285
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uh oh .

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If a device that is not compatible with the HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection) standard is connected to the system using an HDMI cable, video and/or audio cannot be output from the system.
that means no connection to most tft monitors no?
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 10:29   #286
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USB Device - Play video files saved on a USB mass storage device.
Is USB HDD included here? Can it read directory structure of any USB memory device?
The user manual (apparently) says:

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You can use an USB mass storage device[hdd] to store all your media on.
I'll try and find a direct link to that. Although a SCEA rep has already said that USB HDDs can be connected.

But it's not clear what kind of directory structure is necessary, if a particular type is needed at all. USB devices that use "a custom transfer method" are not supported, according to the Kawanishi interview one posted.

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Old 10-Nov-2006, 10:44   #287
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Izumi Kawanishi:
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+ By pressing the triangle button the XMB shows the folder tree structure as is just like Windows Explorer.
+ It can connect with USB mass-storage devices such as PSP, but not with ones with special transfer methods such as iPod and Walkman. They are collaborating with the Walkman unit for some interaction in the future.
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 16:50   #288
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Ok, but where is VC-1 support ?!?!?! This can not be like this, customer gets hq Warner Blu-ray release for his PS3 and it will not play ?!?!
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 16:53   #289
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Ok, but where is VC-1 support ?!?!?! This can not be like this, customer gets hq Warner Blu-ray release for his PS3 and it will not play ?!?!
VC1 is a mandatory codec in the Blu-ray spec. PS3 will play back VC1 BD movies. The codecs you see listed throughout the thread are for video files on your HDD or other storage media.
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 16:54   #290
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Ok, but where is VC-1 support ?!?!?! This can not be like this, customer gets hq Warner Blu-ray release for his PS3 and it will not play ?!?!
VC-1 is supported in the BluRay player if not in the rest of the system. It can't be called a BluRay player or bear the BRD logo if it doesn't support the standards, and those standards include the MPEG2, AVC, and VC1 codecs.
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 18:54   #291
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How does Cure@Home run on a PS3 ? I remember someone or some article says it will come up when the PS3 is idle.
(A) Under Linux
(B) Under Game OS (Is there a way to schedule background job/screen saver ?)
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 19:43   #292
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It's definitely running under the GameOS. It will be a downloadable 'game', I'm fairly sure. I have no idea if it can run as a screensaver though. I think you'll just have to boot it up yourself, but we'll see.

EDIT: Hmm, while browsing through the manual, I discover a screensaver.

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Old 10-Nov-2006, 20:06   #293
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EDIT: Hmm, while browsing through the manual, I discover a screensaver.
Wow ! Someone should write an Internet radio screen saver for PS3 then.
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 20:37   #294
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The system update software is available now, just in time for the Japanese launch..

Ver 1.10:

http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/index.html

Direct link:

http://djp01.ps3.update.playstation....b/PS3UPDAT.PUP
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 21:13   #295
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Not much use to us without ps3's, but does it say what it changes from the orginal 1.00 firmware?

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Whole:
-It reached®the point where the service of PLAYSTATION Network can be utilized.
-With the picture keyboard of European language,it reached the point where it can do the letterinput of single tap system.

Settings:
-Music CD outputfrequency was added to music setting.
-ATRAC is made effective added tosubstance setting
-In type of keyboard of peripheral device setting, type of keyboard which can be selected increased.
-The "cross color decreasefilter " was added todisplay setting
-"5 minutes later" were added to "the screen saver" of display setting

Video:
-When the hard disk and the animated picture file which is retained in the record media playing back, with picture mode it reached the point where full can be chosen.

Network:
-Downloading music and the animated picture file with Internet browser, it reached the point where it can retain in the hard disk.
-It reached®the point where the following contents can be downloaded with PLAYSTATION Store.

-PLAYSTATION®3 standard software
-PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) with the PlayStation standard software which®operates (PSP of system software version 3.00®or more is necessary)

-It corresponded to traditional form letter Chinese and simplified form letter Chinese indication with Internet browser.
-The online manual was added.

Additional:
-Calculation method of hard disk capacity was modified.
-As for being less crowded capacity of the hard disk, the numerical value which calculated 1GB as the 1024テ・024テ・024 = approximately 10 hundred million 7374 ten thousand bytes is indicated. Because of that, capacity than the numerical value which is stated as specification is smaller indicated in the instruction manual and the like. [ Setting ] the 竍・[ substance setting ] the 竍・ [ you can verify the being less crowded capacity of the hard disk, with substance information ].
-™PlayStation of the part in®PS3 and®operational status of the PlayStation 2 standard software were renewed. You can verify up-to-date operationalstatus with <private search sight >.
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 22:53   #296
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AV Watch Impress has a long-ish article on the PS3, its multimedia capabilities and other info:

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20061111/ps3.htm

It apparently confirms VC1 Blu-ray playback (duh..but some people did wonder about this), and measures power consumption - up to 200W in the games they tried.

Babelfish might be failing me, but they seem to lavish praise on its BD movie playback. They say picture quality is very high, and that it is fast compared to other players, with very responsive BD-Java support. I think they say that they would consider it wrong to label PS3 as merely a "sufficient" player. They point out a couple of times that picture quality is very high.

Perhaps somebody could do a better job translating the article.

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Old 10-Nov-2006, 23:29   #297
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There's also a Japanese article here on upgrading the HDD:

http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/games/art...1/news004.html
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Old 10-Nov-2006, 23:51   #298
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Babelfish might be failing me, but they seem to lavish praise on its BD movie playback. They say picture quality is very high, and that it is fast compared to other players, with very responsive BD-Java support. I think they say that they would consider it wrong to label PS3 as merely a "sufficient" player. They point out a couple of times that picture quality is very high.
Match the comments expressed here: http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showpo...27&postcount=1

Load is supposedly low while playing Blu-ray movies
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 02:04   #299
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They say picture quality is very high, and that it is fast compared to other players, with very responsive BD-Java support.
I didn't think any current releases used BD-J yet? Maybe there's a test disc that does? Or perhaps a JPN only release that uses it? Or perhaps they're confusing it with the menuing system, which from what I understand is not done in BD-J.
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Old 11-Nov-2006, 04:44   #300
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The article Titanio posted say the PS3 is definitely NOT a poor-man's BD player, so basically they are loving it. Loading of a BD takes 7-9 seconds and playback seconds 2-5 seconds after pressing the button which is significantly faster than the HD-XA1 HD DVD player. The only point that is not found in the PS3 compared to a dedicated player is complicated equalizers and other picture configuration options but the playback quality is already very high without tweaking. AVCHD and MPEG2-TS playback, but no DVD upscaling. As for the menu, probably they mistakes HDMV for BD-Java but the menu is very fast anyway.

BTW someone has attached a 320GB 3.5inch HDD already.

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