[Shifty Geezer]

They're being very optimisitic if they feel in one year they can sell more than their entire sales of XB! For Microsoft's sake they'd better be right, and not have a warehouse full of 10 million unsold consoles!

[expletive]

Originally Posted by Shifty Geezer

They're being very optimisitic if they feel in one year they can sell more than their entire sales of XB! For Microsoft's sake they'd better be right, and not have a warehouse full of 10 million unsold consoles!

Yes, that would be bad.

I dont see that they have much choice though, they have to prepare for the best case because the last thing they want is to have lots of demand this holiday (and for Halo next year) and no supply. We've all seen how that plays out...

[Tap In]

Originally Posted by expletive

Yes, that would be bad.

I dont see that they have much choice though, they have to prepare for the best case because the last thing they want is to have lots of demand this holiday (and for Halo next year) and no supply. We've all seen how that plays out...

absolutely; make as many as possible.

It's not like the thing is a flop, people are really enjoying this system and games are flying off the shelves considering the smal user base. Just last month they were still fulfilling some pre-orders .

Now I doubt it will do PS2 numbers but to expect that it can't shatter Xbox1 total sales over the next couple of years would be short sighted.

[Dave Baumann]

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech...FREE&cm_ite=NA

• By June 30 Shipment forcasts: Low number revised up to 5M, high stays the same at 5.5M
• 3.2M Shipped so far, 1.8M NA
• MS home and entertainment division post loss of $388 million on $1.06 billion in sales in the company's third quarter, compared with a loss of $175 million on $571 million in sales a year earlier.

[kyleb]

Damn, that looks pretty bad when compared to their up to 3 million within 90 days that they were talking up at launch.

[Powderkeg]

Originally Posted by kyleb

Damn, that looks pretty bad when compared to their up to 3 million within 90 days that they were talking up at launch.

But their original forcast (Before any supply problems) called for 4.5 Million to 5.5 million sold by June. This has been revised to 5-5.5 million, so they are now expecting to have sold at least a half million more units than their original low-end expectations.

In otherwords, they are right in line with where they wanted to be, despite the slow start.

[Acert93]

Originally Posted by kyleb

Damn, that looks pretty bad when compared to their up to 3 million within 90 days that they were talking up at launch.

Yes, they were aiming for 2.75M-3M units in the first 90 days. But they did revise this fairly quickly once production issues were noted.

That said, I think this looks pretty good. Production issues aside they have exceeded 3M within 150 days. MS has also opened a third assembly plant and has ordered that the current plants ramp up even more.

Finally, and frequently overlooked, is that coupled with the initial 3M in 90 days estimate was the fiscal year (ending 30 June) estimate of 4.5M-5.5M. They are still on pace for 5M-5.5M -- so even with production issues and missing the 90 day estimate, they are still on course to meet their fiscal year goals.

So the glass being half empty is MS missed their 90 day goal by 60 days... the glass being half full is production issues and PR issues aside, they are well on pace for their original fiscal year goals and production has ramped up nicely. Of course it is now up to MS to provide the software to be a spoiler. Best case scenario is the PS3 will be fairly limited come the holidays. MS will have flooded the shelves with 360 hardware. They need a number of the new IPs they are gambling on (Viva Pinata, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Too Human, Crackdown, Blue Dragon... toss in Lost Planet) to be really good and to get a number of other quality titles out the door (Forza 2? Fable 2?) all the while making sure Madden and games like BiA3 and MoH play just as well on their platform. 2006 is an important push year for MS, as is 2007 when we will see the first 360-centric games/engines. MS needs to avoid the software and hardware issues they had at launch if they wish to keep production high and those storehouses empty. Sony is going to sell hardware and software, the question is can MS make some progress.

5M units come the end of June would be progress.

[Acert93]

Originally Posted by Powderkeg

But their original forcast (Before any supply problems) called for 4.5 Million to 5.5 million sold by June. This has been revised to 5-5.5 million, so they are now expecting to have sold at least a half million more units than their original low-end expectations.

In otherwords, they are right in line with where they wanted to be, despite the slow start.

Darn my extra paragraph! At least I provided a link

[Powderkeg]

Originally Posted by Acert93

Darn my extra paragraph! At least I provided a link

Are you suggesting that you actually need me to post a link to prove what I said?

www.google.com

Try typing in

360 4.5 Million to 5.5 million sold by June

[Tap In]

Originally Posted by Powderkeg

Are you suggesting that you actually need me to post a link to prove what I said?

www.google.com

Try typing in

360 4.5 Million to 5.5 million sold by June

he was just saying that you said the same thing that he did (part of it) before he was finished writing his.

He was being affable.

[scooby_dooby]

So 5.5 million by june eh? Should easily hit 10million by years end worldwide, if not 12+. Yes...that's my professional analysis.