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Old 21-Feb-2006, 18:48   #1
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March 23rd, sayeth EB: http://www.elitebastards.com/forum/v...ic.php?t=13857

That R590 thread was too mishmashy, so I brought this over here as its more natural home.
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Old 21-Feb-2006, 19:00   #2
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Well if it is EB saying it then it must be true.
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Old 21-Feb-2006, 19:14   #3
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Any word on 512mb versions? I have no interst in 256mb cards since I already own games that can benift from more.
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Old 22-Feb-2006, 19:22   #4
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Here is a wild theory

R590 is going to be used in the X1900XL and X1800GTO (with one quad disabled).

Reasons:I am still skeptical as I dont think the R590 is ready yet.
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Old 22-Feb-2006, 19:34   #5
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12 pipes? Looks like nobody told the board makers, then!

http://www.club-3d.com/productshow_v...ode=CGAX-XL192

Taken from this thread at Rage3D

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33846318

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Old 22-Feb-2006, 19:48   #6
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Here is a wild theory

R590 is going to be used in the X1900XL and X1800GTO (with one quad disabled)
That could be true only if R590 has 3 quads total. Otherwise I can't imagine, that X1800GTO would be so slow.
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Old 22-Feb-2006, 20:52   #7
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That could be true only if R590 has 3 quads total. Otherwise I can't imagine, that X1800GTO would be so slow.
Rethinking I feel stupid about what I just said.
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Old 22-Feb-2006, 21:02   #8
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Rethinking I feel stupid about what I just said.
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Here is a wild theory

R590 is going to be used in the X1900XL and X1800GTO (with one quad disabled).

Reasons:I am still skeptical as I dont think the R590 is ready yet.
R590 is the 90nm R580 die shrink
Launching at or about Computex
will be the X1950
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Old 23-Feb-2006, 13:21   #10
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Here is a wild theory

R590 is going to be used in the X1900XL and X1800GTO (with one quad disabled).

Reasons:I am still skeptical as I dont think the R590 is ready yet.
Criminy! Inq too with the X1800GTO is R590-based nonsense? It makes no sense AT ALL.
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Criminy! Inq too with the X1800GTO is R590-based nonsense? It makes no sense AT ALL.
they just copy vr-zone rumours like we do
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R590 is going to be used in the X1900XL and X1800GTO (with one quad disabled).
This wild theory sure is pretty dumb. What do you think ATI is going to do with all the surplus R520s? Hint: It's a model that begins with a G and ends with an O.
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R590 is the 90nm R580 die shrink
Launching at or about Computex
will be the X1950
R590 is the 80nm R580 die shrink. I expect the R590 will come with GDR4 memory at an increase in both core and memory speeds....hope ATi has some better cooling solutions in the wings.

The X1800GTO will be a limited production of left over R520 cores. How limited remains to be seen, as it all comes down to how many 520 cores ATi has left.....
That's my guess........
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This wild theory sure is pretty dumb. What do you think ATI is going to do with all the surplus R520s? Hint: It's a model that begins with a G and ends with an O.

They call it X1800 GEO wand will acquire lots of tidbits about future hardware..
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Old 23-Feb-2006, 13:54   #15
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They call it X1800 GEO wand will acquire lots of tidbits about future hardware..
Nobody was supposed to figure that out!
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They call it X1800 GEO wand will acquire lots of tidbits about future hardware..
Hey, Fudo got a whole top-end gpu named after him! So it could happen! Tho come to think of it, not real pleased with that comparison.
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Since the X800GTO used a variety of different cores, couldnt the same be true for the X1800GTO?
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Since the X800GTO used a variety of different cores, couldnt the same be true for the X1800GTO?
Show me another chip used for X1800, and then we'll talk.
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Since the X800GTO used a variety of different cores, couldnt the same be true for the X1800GTO?
not really, the XL cores are gone (or should be) and r580!=r520, so the GTO really should be the b-bin r520's
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Not to mention all those early R520 cores that are just sitting around......
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Hey, Fudo got a whole top-end gpu named after him! So it could happen! Tho come to think of it, not real pleased with that comparison.
I heard that geo is just a speed binned Uttar anyhow....
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This wild theory sure is pretty dumb.
You either missed that I realised it or wanted to punish anyway
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Rethinking I feel stupid about what I just said.
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Old 24-Feb-2006, 16:34   #23
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12 pipes? Looks like nobody told the board makers, then!

http://www.club-3d.com/productshow_v...ode=CGAX-XL192
Club 3D removed most of the specs, only the picture remained...
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Anyone figured out what the pins on the top left of the PCB are for?
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Anyone figured out what the pins on the top left of the PCB are for?
Amusingly enuf, even their two X1800 manuals on the web site don't address it. Even the "Connecting Devices" section that shows pics of all the "typical connections found on ATI graphics cards" doesn't show it or address it.
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