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mckmas8808 · 22-Dec-2005, 16:55

Why is Namco making this game for the 360? They should have just saved some money and put in on the Xbox. Lets discuss why Namco isn't what it used to be.

Qroach · 22-Dec-2005, 16:59

This game looks like ass. The way i see is it this.

1. MS asks Namco for support.
2. Namco pledges support for 360
3. Namco only releases the crappiest ttitles they had in development on the 360.
4. Leaving all thier higher profile titles to PS3.

Imo, namco did the same thing last gen, with the exception of soul calibur, but then they went and made the new version (as crappy as it was) exclusive to PS2.

dukmahsik · 22-Dec-2005, 17:07

unreal engine 3? looks like shitttt

robofunk · 22-Dec-2005, 17:14

at least his hair looks better. lol

one · 22-Dec-2005, 17:30

Hmm, jeux-france upscaled them? Clearer pics here
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...0051222/fc.htm

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Originally Posted by robofunk

at least his hair looks better. lol

Seems so.
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...0050826/fc.htm
has old pics in August and the character's hair was like a mass of rock.
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...50826/fc22.htm
Now it looks a bit better.
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...51222/fc13.htm

But no shadows are seen in these new pics and tires are very polygonized. I guess their estimation based on early devkits missed the real performance of Xbox 360.

Bad_Boy · 22-Dec-2005, 18:09

ew.

some things I noticed.

-no shadows (as said above)
-repetitive textures (brick wall/tunnels pictures)
-water looks bad
-draw distance? or is that just fog in the tunnels?
-physics? http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...51222/fc09.jpg the box breaking apart doesnt feel next gen imo.
-reflections/lighting on the car...ew.
-jagged curbs...i know i know, nitpicking, but the curbs are like obtuse angles not actual curves where there is a turn.
-what happened to all those pedetrians? remember the "real city" type feel

God namco...please do not screw up tekken.

3roxor · 22-Dec-2005, 18:11

just wow..

AlStrong · 22-Dec-2005, 18:20

it looks no better than the GTA games did on the Xbox.

Shark Sandwich · 22-Dec-2005, 18:32

Holy crap this game looks awful. Are we sure these are new? They should be embarrassed to make a game that looks this bad on the 360. Plus, any game that has you destroying crates in a sewer HAS to be terrible.

ihamoitc2005 · 22-Dec-2005, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Bad_Boy

ew.

some things I noticed.

-no shadows (as said above)
-repetitive textures (brick wall/tunnels pictures)
-water looks bad
-draw distance? or is that just fog in the tunnels?
-physics? http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...51222/fc09.jpg the box breaking apart doesnt feel next gen imo.
-reflections/lighting on the car...ew.
-jagged curbs...i know i know, nitpicking, but the curbs are like obtuse angles not actual curves where there is a turn.
-what happened to all those pedetrians? remember the "real city" type feel

God namco...please do not screw up tekken.

Maybe they are making PSP version and mixup of screenshot occured. It is my crazy guess but sometimes anything can happen.

deathkiller · 22-Dec-2005, 18:54

I think that the screens are from mini-games (they call them "mini-misions" in the google-translated article)

Article translated

"Nerve-Damage" · 22-Dec-2005, 19:00

The tires...PS1 days anyone!?!

Serenity Painted Death · 22-Dec-2005, 19:03

That "vehicle" is so bad that words fail me completely in an attempt to describe it.

mckmas8808 · 22-Dec-2005, 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathkiller

I think that the screens are from mini-games (they call them "mini-misions" in the google-translated article)

Article translated

That still doesn't excuse why the game looks so bad.

RancidLunchmeat · 22-Dec-2005, 19:35

..I just can't possibly see them actually releasing a 360 game that looks like that.

Nobody, simply nobody, would buy it. Hell, nobody would buy that game on the Xbox. It's horrible. Awful. There aren't enough words for how bad that game looks, and I haven't been overly impressed with much of the "next gen" things I've seen so far.

But.. wow. That's just hideous. There must be a mistake somewhere. I don't see how those can even be 'early development' shots, because that game wouldn't sell on the Xbox or PS2!

deathkiller · 22-Dec-2005, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckmas8808

That still doesn't excuse why the game looks so bad.

Yes but that would explain why the pics look like a cheap PS2 game, may be they are using PS2 game engines for the minigames.

mckmas8808 · 22-Dec-2005, 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathkiller

Yes but that would explain why the pics look like a cheap PS2 game, may be they are using PS2 game engines for the minigames.

This is the FCK of current gen (Style not quality). The game is called Ryu Go Gotaku and is for the PS2. I have more respect for this game than FCK.

expletive · 22-Dec-2005, 19:48

Unless the gameplay is unworldly, this game could do more harm than good for X360 if its released in Japan. I dont know wtf they are thinking.

Nite_Hawk · 22-Dec-2005, 19:49

wow!

When I saw the first screenshots I was thinking to myself "Wow, that PSP game looks pretty crappy. I suppose maybe on a smallish screen it might look ok".

Then I saw it was for the 360. I wonder, why do they even bother posting screenshots that look like this?

Nite_Hawk

EndR · 22-Dec-2005, 19:59

namco isn´t even trying...

Shark Sandwich · 22-Dec-2005, 20:13

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...ml?sid=6141329

Here's an article from 12-15:

"TOKYO--Japanese Xbox 360 owners who are waiting for Namco's Frame City Killer will now have to wait a little longer. Today, Namco announced that the futuristic shooter will be delayed in Japan from a February 23 release to "spring 2006." The company blamed the delay on the usual go-to culprit, "quality-assurance issues." In Frame City Killer, players take the role of Crow, an assassin sent to a metropolis to identify and eliminate Khan, a mysterious terrorist and drug kingpin. Players track and profile targets in the game, while using numerous methods to execute the perfect hit."

Still though, short of completely redoing all the graphics, I don't think there's anything they can do that can make this game look decent.

weaksauce · 22-Dec-2005, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckmas8808

[IM]http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20050823/ryu13.jpg[/IMG]

This is the FCK of current gen (Style not quality). The game is called Ryu Go Gotaku and is for the PS2. I have more respect for this game than FCK.

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...050823/ryu.htm

mckmas8808 · 22-Dec-2005, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by weaksauce

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...050823/ryu.htm

I know. Amazing right?

Branduil · 22-Dec-2005, 20:34

Wow and I thought that game looked bad before.

weaksauce · 22-Dec-2005, 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckmas8808

I know. Amazing right?

Yeah, just hope they'll get better publicity.

22-Dec-2005, 16:55	#1
mckmas8808 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,744	New Frame City Killer pics Why is Namco making this game for the 360? They should have just saved some money and put in on the Xbox. Lets discuss why Namco isn't what it used to be.

22-Dec-2005, 16:59	#2
Qroach Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,859	This game looks like ass. The way i see is it this. 1. MS asks Namco for support. 2. Namco pledges support for 360 3. Namco only releases the crappiest ttitles they had in development on the 360. 4. Leaving all thier higher profile titles to PS3. Imo, namco did the same thing last gen, with the exception of soul calibur, but then they went and made the new version (as crappy as it was) exclusive to PS2. __________________ Vince: "Nobody gives a damn about graphics, we're well into a point of diminishing returns with respect to current TV limitations, and even with HDTV, the average consumer won't notice a diffrence between PS3 and XBX2."

22-Dec-2005, 18:09	#6
Bad_Boy god of war. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC. Posts: 3,347	ew. some things I noticed. -no shadows (as said above) -repetitive textures (brick wall/tunnels pictures) -water looks bad -draw distance? or is that just fog in the tunnels? -physics? http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...51222/fc09.jpg the box breaking apart doesnt feel next gen imo. -reflections/lighting on the car...ew. -jagged curbs...i know i know, nitpicking, but the curbs are like obtuse angles not actual curves where there is a turn. -what happened to all those pedetrians? remember the "real city" type feel God namco...please do not screw up tekken. __________________ -BB\|

22-Dec-2005, 19:59	#20
EndR Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 387	namco isn´t even trying... __________________ Atari invented it. Nintendo pioneered it. Sony popularized it. Microsoft bought it.

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22-Dec-2005, 17:07	#3
dukmahsik Naughty Boy! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 994	unreal engine 3? looks like shitttt

22-Dec-2005, 17:14	#4
robofunk Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 213	at least his hair looks better. lol

22-Dec-2005, 18:11	#7
3roxor Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 671	just wow..

22-Dec-2005, 18:20	#8
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978	it looks no better than the GTA games did on the Xbox.

22-Dec-2005, 18:32	#9
Shark Sandwich Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 337	Holy crap this game looks awful. Are we sure these are new? They should be embarrassed to make a game that looks this bad on the 360. Plus, any game that has you destroying crates in a sewer HAS to be terrible.

22-Dec-2005, 18:54	#11
deathkiller Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 185	I think that the screens are from mini-games (they call them "mini-misions" in the google-translated article) Article translated

22-Dec-2005, 19:00	#12
"Nerve-Damage" Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 809	The tires...PS1 days anyone!?!

22-Dec-2005, 19:03	#13
Serenity Painted Death Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 370	That "vehicle" is so bad that words fail me completely in an attempt to describe it.

22-Dec-2005, 19:35	#15
RancidLunchmeat Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,679	..I just can't possibly see them actually releasing a 360 game that looks like that. Nobody, simply nobody, would buy it. Hell, nobody would buy that game on the Xbox. It's horrible. Awful. There aren't enough words for how bad that game looks, and I haven't been overly impressed with much of the "next gen" things I've seen so far. But.. wow. That's just hideous. There must be a mistake somewhere. I don't see how those can even be 'early development' shots, because that game wouldn't sell on the Xbox or PS2!

22-Dec-2005, 19:48	#18
expletive Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 3,145	Unless the gameplay is unworldly, this game could do more harm than good for X360 if its released in Japan. I dont know wtf they are thinking.

22-Dec-2005, 19:49	#19
Nite_Hawk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,202	wow! When I saw the first screenshots I was thinking to myself "Wow, that PSP game looks pretty crappy. I suppose maybe on a smallish screen it might look ok". Then I saw it was for the 360. I wonder, why do they even bother posting screenshots that look like this? Nite_Hawk

22-Dec-2005, 20:13	#21
Shark Sandwich Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 337	http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...ml?sid=6141329 Here's an article from 12-15: "TOKYO--Japanese Xbox 360 owners who are waiting for Namco's Frame City Killer will now have to wait a little longer. Today, Namco announced that the futuristic shooter will be delayed in Japan from a February 23 release to "spring 2006." The company blamed the delay on the usual go-to culprit, "quality-assurance issues." In Frame City Killer, players take the role of Crow, an assassin sent to a metropolis to identify and eliminate Khan, a mysterious terrorist and drug kingpin. Players track and profile targets in the game, while using numerous methods to execute the perfect hit." Still though, short of completely redoing all the graphics, I don't think there's anything they can do that can make this game look decent.

22-Dec-2005, 20:34	#24
Branduil Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 60	Wow and I thought that game looked bad before.

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