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Old 02-Nov-2005, 20:24   #1
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Harrison on PS3 Online

As we suspected months ago in our interview with Epic’s Mark Rein, it looks like Sony will in fact go with an open architecture for its online model. What does that mean, exactly? Basically, the way that the PlayStation 2’s online model operates will be applied to the PlayStation 3. While Harrison admitted that the Xbox Live online gaming service is one of the things that Microsoft has done well, he said that Sony’s plan is to let publishers establish their own means for getting consumers online and to let the publishers interact with consumers directly instead of using Sony as some kind of buffer for the online experience.

http://www.keepmedia.com/pubs/Playst...52?extID=10026

Sorry didn't see a thread on this earlier.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 20:29   #2
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well I'm all for free online play
me personaly, i wouldnt want to pay 10$ a month just to have an extra service lik, IM mode, ranking etc.. but hey thats me
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 20:29   #3
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Harrison on PS3 Online

As we suspected months ago in our interview with Epic’s Mark Rein, it looks like Sony will in fact go with an open architecture for its online model. What does that mean, exactly? Basically, the way that the PlayStation 2’s online model operates will be applied to the PlayStation 3. While Harrison admitted that the Xbox Live online gaming service is one of the things that Microsoft has done well, he said that Sony’s plan is to let publishers establish their own means for getting consumers online and to let the publishers interact with consumers directly instead of using Sony as some kind of buffer for the online experience.

http://www.keepmedia.com/pubs/Playst...52?extID=10026

Sorry didn't see a thread on this earlier.
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showth...highlight=GDCE
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 20:34   #4
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well I'm all for free online play
me personaly, i wouldnt want to pay 10$ a month just to have an extra service lik, IM mode, ranking etc.. but hey thats me
$10 a month? I pay 5 bucks for Live
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 20:42   #5
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$10 a month? I pay 5 bucks for Live
I pay $0 for online play!
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 20:44   #6
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works for me. I dont want to pay to play online. It's one of the reasons I almost always buy the PC version.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 20:57   #7
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XBL is just another way of scamming users out of their money. There's nothing XBL does that other games don't offer for free. If MS had done some actual WORK, such as hosting games on their own servers etc, then that might have been something one might pay for, but I still wouldn't want to fork out for game hosting of a game I might not even own, or isn't interested in playing online.

The whole XBL concept is dubious IMO, but I've said all this before and shan't be repeating myself.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 20:58   #8
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multiplayer online is the only way I want to play anymore.

I am rarely ever interested in single player campaigns now that I have had a taste of a solid, easy to use, multiplayer console system gaming.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:03   #9
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XBL is just another way of scamming users out of their money. There's nothing XBL does that other games don't offer for free. If MS had done some actual WORK, such as hosting games on their own servers etc, then that might have been something one might pay for, but I still wouldn't want to fork out for game hosting of a game I might not even own, or isn't interested in playing online.

The whole XBL concept is dubious IMO, but I've said all this before and shan't be repeating myself.
Ummm, MS has spent almost $2 Billion on the XBL service. If it was so easy, and could be done for free, why isn't Sony doing it then? Obviously it's not so easy and definitely not free to implement.
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multiplayer online is the only way I want to play anymore.

I am rarely ever interested in single player campaigns now that I have had a taste of a solid, easy to use, multiplayer console system gaming.

Agreed, Multiplayer online player has really tanted my tastes for gameplay. I mean, whne the AI compared to the game to compared to Real live people who I can flame, insult, or make a mockery of as I'm shooting their body and dancing around it (Ok, I'm talking about Socom 3), is soo addictive....

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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:10   #11
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i'd rather pay a paltry $5 for a service, getting rid of cheaters, communication, etc.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:20   #12
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XBL is just another way of scamming users out of their money. There's nothing XBL does that other games don't offer for free. If MS had done some actual WORK, such as hosting games on their own servers etc, then that might have been something one might pay for, but I still wouldn't want to fork out for game hosting of a game I might not even own, or isn't interested in playing online.

The whole XBL concept is dubious IMO, but I've said all this before and shan't be repeating myself.
Have you ever used XBL? Being able to see which your friends are online and what theyre playing, send them an IM, etc. is fantastic. Just the limited funcitonality that was available on the current XBL service was great.

Being able to build a community, easily connect with friends and gamers of similar skill levels is also huge advantage.

In short, I couldnt disagre more.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:31   #13
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This is a report based on the GDCE comments - which you can read for yourself in the thread already linked to, rather than OPM's paraphrasing (which is slightly misleading imo). There's nothing new here, or nothing you can't read in more precise "in context" form elsewhere. Also, misleading thread title.

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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:33   #14
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So Sony have adopted the PROVEN pc method of on-line play??? Giving developers there own choice meens the dev's are not restricted to do what they want and that meens more dev's will give more support due to the freedom.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:35   #15
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So Sony have adopted the PROVEN pc method of on-line play??? Giving developers there own choice meens the dev's are not restricted to do what they want and that meens more dev's will give more support due to the freedom.
and how has PC online gaming evolved in the last 5 years compared to Xbox Live?
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:38   #16
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So Sony have adopted the PROVEN pc method of on-line play??? Giving developers there own choice meens the dev's are not restricted to do what they want and that meens more dev's will give more support due to the freedom.
If that was the case why are there more Xbox games than PS2 games online
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:39   #17
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and how has PC online gaming evolved in the last 5 years compared to Xbox Live?
Does it reallty matter????? PC is the biggest gaming market there is and it has survived and grown WITH-OUT these fancy friend list's ETC... that XBL has.

Sony has given Dev's UNLIMITED freedom for there online section's of game's, and im sure the dev's can concentrate on inovative idea's with it.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:40   #18
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If that was the case why are there more Xbox games than PS2 games online
Is there???
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:41   #19
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XBL is just another way of scamming users out of their money. There's nothing XBL does that other games don't offer for free. If MS had done some actual WORK, such as hosting games on their own servers etc, then that might have been something one might pay for, but I still wouldn't want to fork out for game hosting of a game I might not even own, or isn't interested in playing online.

The whole XBL concept is dubious IMO, but I've said all this before and shan't be repeating myself.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:43   #20
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Sony has given Dev's UNLIMITED freedom for there online section's of game's, and im sure the dev's can concentrate on inovative idea's with it.
Nope. See people don't really realize what MS has done with XBL. MS basically created the majority of the net-code for devs to put their games online. Giving devs more time to focus on other things. MS also hosts servers for the games that need them. And since putting a game online is essentially free for devs on Xbox, more games have the feature.
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Is there???
YES.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:45   #22
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Nope. See people don't really realize what MS has done with XBL. MS basically created the majority of the net-code for devs to put their games online. Giving devs more time to focus on other things. MS also hosts servers for the games that need them. And since putting a game online is essentially free for devs on Xbox, more games have the feature.
See microsoft create the tools and host the server's, what do dev's do if what microsoft have is'nt enough???what then??? They have to do it themselve's.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:47   #23
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So Sony have adopted the PROVEN pc method of on-line play??? Giving developers there own choice meens the dev's are not restricted to do what they want and that meens more dev's will give more support due to the freedom.
How do you explain the immense popularity of the gamespy products? The unified interface/friends list/messageing approach is already taking root in a completely open PC environment (see also:Xfire) where there was no incentive for users other than convenience. I think its obvious by the way PC people have flocked to these game 'browsers' that its a value add service.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:49   #24
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XBL is just another way of scamming users out of their money. There's nothing XBL does that other games don't offer for free. If MS had done some actual WORK, such as hosting games on their own servers etc, then that might have been something one might pay for, but I still wouldn't want to fork out for game hosting of a game I might not even own, or isn't interested in playing online.

The whole XBL concept is dubious IMO, but I've said all this before and shan't be repeating myself.
You be amazed how many people on Live think they are playing on MS servers.

Live does actually provide one good feature, that you are connected to people even though they are playing a differnet game, so they are providing something that other games don't, unless you are playing a EA Sports game. It's nice that i can get an invite from my friends while playing something totally different.

Other than that though, it is overrated big time. 5 bucks a month for an Instant Messenger service.
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Old 02-Nov-2005, 21:50   #25
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I have to disagree with the people that don't like xbox live, it's a great service once you start playing on it, and it's the price of a game for a year subscription it's not like it's $50 a month

I would like a service like live for free, but thats not going to happen so I don't mind paying a once a year fee

online pc gaming is not much different from live since you have features of live through 3rd partys with things like teamspeak and xfire
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