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Old 21-Oct-2005, 07:38   #1
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Default Leaked PS3 Price?

http://translate.google.com/translat...US:eek:fficial

Here is some information on Gamefront, reputed german gaming site:

1) PS3 wanted to use a Microsoft Audio Technology but Microsoft might want loyalties for that. war brewing

2) the same information somehow by accident told the price of PS3 would be between 499 Euro and 529 Euro (between 600$ and 650$ US) but none of MS or Sony would confirm that price when asked.

3) It seems MS knows the price of Sony but is not disclosing for NDA purposes.
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 07:43   #2
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http://translate.google.com/translat...US:eek:fficial

Here is some information on Gamefront, reputed german gaming site:

1) PS3 wanted to use a Microsoft Audio Technology but Microsoft might want loyalties for that. war brewing

2) the same information somehow by accident told the price of PS3 would be between 499 Euro and 529 Euro (between 600$ and 650$ US) but none of MS or Sony would confirm that price when asked.

3) It seems MS knows the price of Sony but is not disclosing for NDA purposes.

Too high, but then, I put no faith in those rumours. The same thing was said prior to the famous PSP launch, and analysts all around the world hit the wrong spot. Sony Marketing sure knows the risk associated with coming up much later with a machine that costs double the price of an already well established platefrom. Unless they strongly believe in the solid foundation of their brand...
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 07:46   #3
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Too high, but then, I put no faith in those rumours. The same thing was said prior to the famous PSP launch, and analysts all around the world hit the wrong spot. Sony Marketing sure knows the risk associated with coming up much later with a machine that costs double the price of an already well established platefrom. Unless they strongly believe in the solid foundation of their brand...
but this time its not the analyst who gave this information:P Gamefront is a very reputable site, ask any german gamer or European game journalist
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 07:51   #4
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i meant royalties not loyalties in original post
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 07:59   #5
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Yes, I know the source. However, it IS still a rumour...
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 08:01   #6
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Yes, I know the source. However, it IS still a rumour...
we will see about that in a few months
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 10:05   #7
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Didn't you get the memo? All leaks have to go through ME!
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 10:25   #8
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we will see about that in a few months
No we won't, unless PS3 is launching in Europe in the first half of next year - which I think we can agree is unlikely.

I doubt the Japanese price has been set yet, let alone the European price.

That said, PS3 @ €500 would be pretty decent value, relatively. From my point of view at least.
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 10:41   #9
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after newyear a lot of info will go public . they wont tell anybody anything regarding launchprice or launchdate. now is the time to concentrate on psp /ps2

the same sites claiming the psp launchprice of 399euro etc....
this news is NOT confirmed by L-B so fake indeed
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 11:17   #10
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That said, PS3 @ €500 would be pretty decent value, relatively. From my point of view at least.
Sure. But it won't help them if they get relatively good sales because of that value.

Anyways, it doesn't look like we'll know for sure any time soon...
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 11:24   #11
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Sure. But it won't help them if they get relatively good sales because of that value.
True, the absolute figure needs to be a bit lower to set the market alright I think it'd be relatively great value, but they could have a hard time communicating that simply because of the number (500). I think it'd probably still sell well at launch though, regardless, it'd just be beyond that they'd have to manage things carefully

Of course, this is all hypothetical..
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 11:27   #12
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Full text in the news report is translated to:

"Controversy with Microsoft because of audio codec?

20.10.05 - How is to be experienced from firmnear circles from Sony to, there is allegedly a controversy with Microsoft: Therefore codec of Microsoft is to be into the PlayStation3 an audio, why there is to be legal discrepancies between the two companies.

If the disputes should be settled shortly, the console would be delivered allegedly in March 2006 - with optimally running production one considers also world-wide distribution.

The price of the console is to probably lie according to Sony close sources between euro 499 and euro 529. Neither Microsoft nor Sony confirmed this message."

World wide distribution in March 2006? That would be great!

Also when prices are mentioned i Europe the VAT is usually included. €500 is what the PS2 cost at launch in Europe.
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 12:52   #13
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seems like there's a lot of "winking going on here...
just wanted to add a few more winks for good measure...

it has already been established that the PS3 is going to be pricey...
500 Euros is an adequate price...
anything more would be overkill IMO..
it would be nicer if it's
around 400 Euros though...

but on the American side...
a good lot are expecting it to be $399...
so if it comes out at $500...
I would see a good lot might have a change of heart...

but then again it's only a rumour...
quite similar when the PS2 and PSP launched...
that's when different sources were seen
quoting 500-800.
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 12:55   #14
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They'll be fine. PS2 was expected to be this super expensive thing just because of DVD (some people were already chanting the Doom on Sony thinking they were releawsing PS2 at $1000!! I mean come on!!) and it came out at the standard $299 at launch. PSP was expected to be this super expensive little gadget and it actually came out at a very good price (everything considered). PS3 will launch at a decent price. Might be more expensive than other consoles at launch (surely expect it to be more expensive than X360 at launch) but it will be decent.
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 13:44   #15
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I almost can't believe all of this hang-up over an audio-codec dispute with MS. But if true, I'd love to know which codec exactly and what the sticking point is. Always nice to have a window to the behind-the-scenes business drama in the tech world!
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 14:04   #16
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Maybe this audio codec trouble is the reason Sony didn't show playable PS3 consoles at Tokyo Game Show.
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 15:08   #17
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Why wouldn't Sony use an industry standard codec instead of MS? Is MS charging less on royalties?

Are the codecs they're talking about like mp3 and WAV?
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 15:14   #18
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I cant really think why Sony would need an audio codec from MS, dont Sony make there own sound chips? if not im sure Toshiba, IBM or even Nvidia could sort one out. Unless it has something to do with the Lunix port?
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 15:38   #19
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3) It seems MS knows the price of Sony but is not disclosing for NDA purposes.
MS under NDA with Sony about PS3 price ?

This idea is plain ridiculous.
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 15:44   #20
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MS under NDA with Sony about PS3 price ?

This idea is plain ridiculous.
Seconded.
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 15:44   #21
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Didn't you get the memo? All leaks have to go through ME!
Well at $600 at least we know that the PS3 would have a top-notch BR drive with super backwards compatibility.
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 15:51   #22
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Well at $600 at least we know that the PS3 would have a top-notch BR drive with super backwards compatibility.

Mmmm i'll have to confirm that after the weekend!!
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 16:10   #23
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MS under NDA with Sony about PS3 price ?

This idea is plain ridiculous.
Not entirely actually, assuming that Sony have approached MS about access to an audio codec. What you really have to decide is whether or not Sony wanting to use an MS audio codec is ridiculous.

If Sony have actually approached MS about the use of an audio codec and bearing in mind that MS has a lot of divisions, so they wouldn't have been speaking to the XBox division anyway, it is entirely possible that there would be NDAs active on parts of the discussion and if they were discussing the cost of licencing the codec the intended launch price of the console could well have come into the conversation.
Another if; If Sony have approached MS about the use of a codec then there is no way they would have done so without NDAs in place before the discussion even happened.

So, really, the question is, is it possible to believe that Sony would want to use an MS audio codec in PS3?
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Old 21-Oct-2005, 16:18   #24
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Point well taken. For example, Toshiba and Sony are strong allies when it comes to Cell, but with the HD-DVD vs. BD format wars, it's like they are bitter enemies. So it's not a stretch to believe that Sony and MS could be working together on one aspect of the PS3. These are huge companies we're talking about here. They have companies within the companies.
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Why would wanting an audio codec from MS require divulging PS3's launch price to them?
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