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scooby_dooby · 13-Jun-2005, 18:18

These trees are sick:

AlStrong · 13-Jun-2005, 18:22

very old

I think they came out when they made the speed tree announcement (that they would use it)

scooby_dooby · 13-Jun-2005, 18:23

sorry...

AlStrong · 13-Jun-2005, 18:29

blakjedi · 13-Jun-2005, 18:31

These trees look like they are more from ESIV: Oblivion than Gears of War.

Kolgar · 13-Jun-2005, 18:35

They're new to me, and ME LIKEY!!!

LOL, you gotta be kidding me. These graphics just r0xx0rs my s0xx0rs!

jonnyp · 13-Jun-2005, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakjedi

These trees look like they are more from ESIV: Oblivion than Gears of War.

Well that's because they both use Speedtree AFAIK.

mckmas8808 · 13-Jun-2005, 19:16

I like them too. They seem to have more life than what we are use to seeing. I just wish that they could be a little more natural looking.

scooby_dooby · 13-Jun-2005, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckmas8808

I like them too. They seem to have more life than what we are use to seeing. I just wish that they could be a little more natural looking.

I think compared to the trees in this gen, these are amazing, they're not even in the same league.

I'm sure they look alot more natural swaying in the wind with the leaves rustling too.

Shifty Geezer · 13-Jun-2005, 19:43

You won't get more natural trees this gen unless playing a solo tree-on-tree fighting game, IMO. Trees (like all natural content) can gobble poly's, and these need to be skeletoned for animating. I think they're very good and as scenery when you're focussed on the action, will serve their purpose very well.

Evil_Cloud · 13-Jun-2005, 21:47

Just a tech-demo demonstrating the SpeedTree software package integrated into UE3.0, nothing to do with Gears of War.

I doub many trees will feature in GoW since it's an apocalypic-like world.

scooby_dooby · 13-Jun-2005, 21:55

well they were marked as GOW, but they may not be.

There has been some in game screenshots of the GOW characteer hiding behond a rock, in a forest with trees around him and a giant monster in the BG, so there will be something along those lines.

AlStrong · 13-Jun-2005, 22:13

I wonder if that would change (daylight) since the creatures are supposed to be nocturnal.

Evil_Cloud · 13-Jun-2005, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooby_dooby

well they were marked as GOW, but they may not be.

There has been some in game screenshots of the GOW characteer hiding behond a rock, in a forest with trees around him and a giant monster in the BG, so there will be something along those lines.

http://mondoxbox.com/images/shots/11840.jpg

See the windmill? The first UE3.0. footage had these, it's a modified version with the SpeedTree plugin.

Sean*O · 13-Jun-2005, 23:16

I have noticed a lot of the demo shots marked as "UE3' have featured characters or architecture from GOW.

There were some screen shots, for example, of that big toothy beast with a howitzer chained to it's back from GOW, which were circulated as promotion for UE3.

I assume then that GOW is the very first title to be produced using that engine?

cthellis42 · 13-Jun-2005, 23:19

The only thing I hope they do in general is tone down on the--wait for it--shiny-shine! :P

That's a tendency developers seem to have in general, but it's not often that the surrounding foliage is blinding me with snow-like intensity, so I'm hoping they keep it for specific situations and leave the intensity lower otherwise.

Meanwhile, though, they look mighty good.

I would, however, like to repeat what is possibly the funniest press release title ever: SpeedTreeRT™ Named Sole Foliage Middleware Partner for Next Generation Xbox® Platform. I just wish Unaxis Balzer AG were one of their licensees.

Confidence-Man · 13-Jun-2005, 23:19

They've also shown this same environment with UT2007 characters and vehicles. Maybe it's just some kind of test map.

mckmas8808 · 13-Jun-2005, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthellis42

The only thing I hope they do in general is tone down on the--wait for it--shiny-shine! That's a tendency developers seem to have in general, but it's not often that the surrounding foliage is blinding me with snow-like intensity, so I'm hoping they keep it for specific situations and leave the intensity lower otherwise.

Oh bless you good sir. I knew something wasn't right about that tree. These trees need to be how can I say it? Ummm.... more realistic looking. Where have you ever been that a tree looked like this.

I've never seen a tree like this. The art direction needs to turn the other way around or they could ruin their next-gen games. And you would think after all this years of bloom.

jvd · 13-Jun-2005, 23:50

Quote:

I've never seen a tree like this. The art direction needs to turn the other way around or they could ruin their next-gen games. And you would think after all this years of bloom.

I have . ALl it is , is a tree with vines growing on it .

I've seen a tree that split and connected again and the reason it split was a tombstone. So now the tombstone is partial inside the tree .

Personaly this is more realistic

mckmas8808 · 14-Jun-2005, 00:23

jvd you know what I mean come on man.

I'm talking about the shiny shine that cthellis42 was talking about. I know you have seen this in previous games this gen. I thought with all the new hardware and software we could leave this shine. Look at the leaves. NO leaf shines like that. Whats making it shine so so so bright? Everything else looks more natural in a way but that tree in too bright.

AlStrong · 14-Jun-2005, 00:33

leaves can shine like that. Their surfaces can get pretty wax-like. Just wet the surface and shine a bright light on it.

jvd · 14-Jun-2005, 00:34

this is a demo to show off the speed tree featuer. These aren't in game assests . We've seen real in game assets for gears of war with better texture trees .

This demo was to show how fast you can make the trees and place them

here is oblivion with speed tree

koldfuzion1 · 14-Jun-2005, 01:18

I like that last one, the bark alone looks really good. I am with Mckmas8808 on the other ones. They look great, but there is this kind of shiny plasticky aspect to much of what I've seen of the GoW stuff. The tower in the background by the windmill looks totally plastic. And I agree the viny leaves are a touch too shiny. The trees/vegetation do look good superb though. As background, I think these shots kick butt.

But the sheen thing does have to go, there is just something fake/plasticky/toylike about UE3 despite how good it is that is bugging me, and it's hard for me to put a finger on it. Don't get me wrong, the shots I've seen are impressive, but I do think often they are just kind of "off". Better than sucky ass polygons on current gen stuff, but hey, while we're at it...

"The world's first art..."

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BOOMEXPLODE · 14-Jun-2005, 02:32

There will always be room for improvement, until things are "perfect" which will be never!

cthellis42 · 14-Jun-2005, 03:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alstrong

leaves can shine like that. Their surfaces can get pretty wax-like. Just wet the surface and shine a bright light on it.

I'm not saying it can't, but by and large you don't see it much, and games are WAY more likely to toss in the "glimmer" than not. As well, in that particular shot it looks damn weird considering the overcast and stormy sky (they damn well better have an open patch in the direction of the sun, else they're REALLY screwball

), and can also be very out of place in the surrounding grass and ground plants.

I'm just hoping we don't see a repeat through it of other trends in overdone graphical glitz we've seen elsewhere.

13-Jun-2005, 18:18	#1
scooby_dooby Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: E-town, Alberta Posts: 8,389	Gears of War: Daytime Environment Pics (Very Nice!) These trees are sick:

13-Jun-2005, 18:31	#5
blakjedi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Where U wish u were... Posts: 1,900	These trees look like they are more from ESIV: Oblivion than Gears of War. __________________ "The bible is how god supposedly relays his message to the people. That means he wants people to understand wtf he is talking about. ." L233 Justice --- When you get what you deserve Mercy ----- When you don't get what you deserve *Grace ----- When you get what you don't deserve

13-Jun-2005, 19:43	#10
Shifty Geezer Grumpy Mod Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a pretty pink padded cell Posts: 26,003	You won't get more natural trees this gen unless playing a solo tree-on-tree fighting game, IMO. Trees (like all natural content) can gobble poly's, and these need to be skeletoned for animating. I think they're very good and as scenery when you're focussed on the action, will serve their purpose very well. __________________ Shifty Geezer ... Tolerance for internet moronism is exhausted. Anyone talking about people's attitudes in the Console fora, rather than games and technology, will feel my wrath. Read the FAQ to remind yourself how to behave and avoid unsightly incidents.

13-Jun-2005, 21:47	#11
Evil_Cloud Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,752	Just a tech-demo demonstrating the SpeedTree software package integrated into UE3.0, nothing to do with Gears of War. I doub many trees will feature in GoW since it's an apocalypic-like world. __________________ - Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail -

14-Jun-2005, 00:34	#22
jvd Naughty Boy! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: new jersey Posts: 12,731	this is a demo to show off the speed tree featuer. These aren't in game assests . We've seen real in game assets for gears of war with better texture trees . This demo was to show how fast you can make the trees and place them here is oblivion with speed tree __________________ Freexbox 360 !!! Free Psp!

13-Jun-2005, 18:22	#2
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978	very old I think they came out when they made the speed tree announcement (that they would use it)

13-Jun-2005, 18:23	#3
scooby_dooby Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: E-town, Alberta Posts: 8,389	sorry...

13-Jun-2005, 18:29	#4
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978

13-Jun-2005, 18:35	#6
Kolgar Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 698	They're new to me, and ME LIKEY!!! LOL, you gotta be kidding me. These graphics just r0xx0rs my s0xx0rs!

13-Jun-2005, 19:16	#8
mckmas8808 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,744	I like them too. They seem to have more life than what we are use to seeing. I just wish that they could be a little more natural looking.

13-Jun-2005, 21:55	#12
scooby_dooby Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: E-town, Alberta Posts: 8,389	well they were marked as GOW, but they may not be. There has been some in game screenshots of the GOW characteer hiding behond a rock, in a forest with trees around him and a giant monster in the BG, so there will be something along those lines.

13-Jun-2005, 22:13	#13
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978	I wonder if that would change (daylight) since the creatures are supposed to be nocturnal.

13-Jun-2005, 23:16	#15
Sean*O Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 217	I have noticed a lot of the demo shots marked as "UE3' have featured characters or architecture from GOW. There were some screen shots, for example, of that big toothy beast with a howitzer chained to it's back from GOW, which were circulated as promotion for UE3. I assume then that GOW is the very first title to be produced using that engine?

13-Jun-2005, 23:19	#16
cthellis42 Hoopy Frood Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Out of my gourd Posts: 5,894	The only thing I hope they do in general is tone down on the--wait for it--shiny-shine! :P That's a tendency developers seem to have in general, but it's not often that the surrounding foliage is blinding me with snow-like intensity, so I'm hoping they keep it for specific situations and leave the intensity lower otherwise. Meanwhile, though, they look mighty good. I would, however, like to repeat what is possibly the funniest press release title ever: SpeedTreeRT™ Named Sole Foliage Middleware Partner for Next Generation Xbox® Platform. I just wish Unaxis Balzer AG were one of their licensees.

13-Jun-2005, 23:19	#17
Confidence-Man Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 191	They've also shown this same environment with UT2007 characters and vehicles. Maybe it's just some kind of test map.

14-Jun-2005, 00:23	#20
mckmas8808 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,744	jvd you know what I mean come on man. I'm talking about the shiny shine that cthellis42 was talking about. I know you have seen this in previous games this gen. I thought with all the new hardware and software we could leave this shine. Look at the leaves. NO leaf shines like that. Whats making it shine so so so bright? Everything else looks more natural in a way but that tree in too bright.

14-Jun-2005, 00:33	#21
AlStrong penguins Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,978	leaves can shine like that. Their surfaces can get pretty wax-like. Just wet the surface and shine a bright light on it.

14-Jun-2005, 01:18	#23
koldfuzion1 Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York, New York Posts: 32	I like that last one, the bark alone looks really good. I am with Mckmas8808 on the other ones. They look great, but there is this kind of shiny plasticky aspect to much of what I've seen of the GoW stuff. The tower in the background by the windmill looks totally plastic. And I agree the viny leaves are a touch too shiny. The trees/vegetation do look good superb though. As background, I think these shots kick butt. But the sheen thing does have to go, there is just something fake/plasticky/toylike about UE3 despite how good it is that is bugging me, and it's hard for me to put a finger on it. Don't get me wrong, the shots I've seen are impressive, but I do think often they are just kind of "off". Better than sucky ass polygons on current gen stuff, but hey, while we're at it... "The world's first art..." psssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss "The world's first art critic..."

14-Jun-2005, 02:32	#24
BOOMEXPLODE Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 271	There will always be room for improvement, until things are "perfect" which will be never!

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