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mckmas8808 · 23-May-2005, 17:22

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In terms of its Canadian connection, BioWare was at the press conference. It seems as though the Edmonton based developer will be starting a PlayStation 3 game in the coming weeks. So far BioWare has only made games for the PC and Xbox and has never made a game for any Sony gaming platform, but that is going to change. Details on what the game will focus on are not being discussed for the moment.

This is great news. Didn't they do KOTOR? Can you imagine Jade Empire on the PS3.

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http://games-news.sympatico.msn.ca/V...t=&abc=abc
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Shifty Geezer · 23-May-2005, 17:25

It's been mentioned before. Presence at a conference doesn't mean they're in any way involved in developing for PS3.

Mordecaii · 23-May-2005, 17:29

Are they just basing the fact that they'll be making a PS3 game on the fact that they were there, or was something said? If it was based purely on them being at the press conference, then as was stated previously it would in no way mean they were making a PS3 game.

Shinjisan · 23-May-2005, 17:33

There was a rumor about Kotor 3 exclusively for PS3 just before E3 started.
Honestly after Epic has praised the PS3 hardware and seems to prefer it over Xbox 360 and Factor 5 is developing only on PS3, I wouldn't be surprised if the Bioware rumor is true.
Also EGM was talking about a few developers that decided to shift to PS3 because of its power.

Dr Evil · 23-May-2005, 17:43

mckmas8808

How about putting a title like that when there are actual proof that this is the case and not just reacting to every bar rumour you hear.

DigitalSoul · 23-May-2005, 17:54

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Honestly after Epic has praised the PS3 hardware and seems to prefer it over Xbox 360

I don't think Epic prefers one over the other. As I recall, they were impressed by the PS3 hardware as they were by the X360 hardware.

PC-Engine · 23-May-2005, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Dr Evil

mckmas8808

How about putting a title like that when there are actual proof that this is the case and not just reacting to every bar rumour you hear.

He has a bad habit of creating a thread for each and everything piece of SONY related news that comes up. Luckily the mods put a halt to it.

Nite_Hawk · 23-May-2005, 18:04

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Originally Posted by Shinjisan

Honestly after Epic has praised the PS3 hardware and seems to prefer it over Xbox 360 and Factor 5 is developing only on PS3, I wouldn't be surprised if the Bioware rumor is true.

I think based on the Mark's quote he may perfer the PS3, but it's only one quote and I don't know that he speaks for the rest of Epic (granted, if you have more information than just that quote please post!). Still, I agree with you in spirit. Epic certainly seems to have warmed up to the PS3 since nVidia got involved, and that Tim was willing to go out and demo their engine on the PS3 hardware in person lends some credence to it.

For now lets just wait and see if they come out and say one way or another, otherwise we're going to get into a piss match over what basically comes down to interpretation and opinion.

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Mordecaii · 23-May-2005, 18:09

Just looking at the original post, the last line says "Details on what the game will focus on are not being discussed at the moment." Obviously this is speculation but that seems to me like it's pretty concrete there is a game and they're simply not divulging any details... So I don't see the problem with the title since the article at least believes that Biowars is working on the PS3. If anything, the article is wrong and mckmas8808 just posted an article with bad information but that isn't necessarily his fault. I'm surprised that some people can't get past childish insults aimed at others on the boards.

mckmas8808 · 23-May-2005, 18:18

Thank you Mordecaii. Honestly I wasn't going to say anything. I was just going to wait to see if anybody actually read the post. Guys like PC-Engine for some reason actually hates guys like me who tend to like Sony products. I will never hate MS's videogame products. I might not buy it, but I don't have anything personal against it. It seems like me and about a good two handfulls of people are the only ones that look at the future of videogames from an honest non biased standpoint.
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Dr Evil · 23-May-2005, 18:27

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Originally Posted by mckmas8808

It seems like me and about a good two handfulls of people are the only ones that look at the future of videogames from an honest non biased standpoint.

That just made my day

, thank you I knew there was some humour in you afterall.

Mordecaii · 23-May-2005, 18:29

Well if we want to get technical, there isn't such a thing as an unbiased person... some just learn to have more of an open mind than others.

PC-Engine · 23-May-2005, 18:46

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Originally Posted by mckmas8808

Thank you Mordecaii. Honestly I wasn't going to say anything. I was just going to wait to see if anybody actually read the post. Guys like PC-Engine for some reason actually hates guys like me who tend to like Sony products. I will never hate MS's videogame products. I might not buy it, but I don't have anything personal against it. It seems like me and about a good two handfulls of people are the only ones that look at the future of videogames from an honest non biased standpoint.

I guess your unbiased nature is the catalyst for trying to drag KZ is realtime into every single thread.

Ty · 23-May-2005, 18:49

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Originally Posted by PC-Engine

I guess your unbiased nature is the catalyst for trying to drag KZ is realtime into every single thread.

You're the one who brought it up here and in the other thread - unless I missed it earlier in this thread. /shrug

JAD · 23-May-2005, 18:52

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Originally Posted by mckmas8808

Thank you Mordecaii. Honestly I wasn't going to say anything. I was just going to wait to see if anybody actually read the post. Guys like PC-Engine for some reason actually hates guys like me who tend to like Sony products. I will never hate MS's videogame products. I might not buy it, but I don't have anything personal against it. It seems like me and about a good two handfulls of people are the only ones that look at the future of videogames from an honest non biased standpoint.

Does that even go together?

PC-Engine · 23-May-2005, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Ty

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I guess your unbiased nature is the catalyst for trying to drag KZ is realtime into every single thread.

You're the one who brought it up here and in the other thread - unless I missed it earlier in this thread. /shrug

Yeah I brought it here because I get a kick out of people trying to claim their unbiased nature when in fact the evidence prove otherwise.

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Originally Posted by mckmas8808

Thank you Mordecaii. Honestly I wasn't going to say anything. I was just going to wait to see if anybody actually read the post. Guys like PC-Engine for some reason actually hates guys like me who tend to like Sony products. I will never hate MS's videogame products. I might not buy it, but I don't have anything personal against it. It seems like me and about a good two handfulls of people are the only ones that look at the future of videogames from an honest non biased standpoint.

Does that even go together?

Isn't that called an oxy something?

eDoshin · 23-May-2005, 19:08

I really don't know why anyone should be jumping to conclusions just because someone shows up at a news conference. Jobs was spotted, and suddenly we had this iTunes rumors going around. Not to say none of it will pan out, but that's no basis to form a conclusion. I think it would be fair to speculate that JE or KOTOR may show up on PS3, but don't make it look like fact.

BTW .. just because a company like Bioware or Bungie have been xbox console exclusive, doesn't mean the people working there cannot appreciate PS2 games .. and vice-versa for Insomniac or whatever. Why wouldn't they poke their heads in to see what's up?

mckmas8808 · 23-May-2005, 19:25

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Originally Posted by JAD

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Originally Posted by mckmas8808

Thank you Mordecaii. Honestly I wasn't going to say anything. I was just going to wait to see if anybody actually read the post. Guys like PC-Engine for some reason actually hates guys like me who tend to like Sony products. I will never hate MS's videogame products. I might not buy it, but I don't have anything personal against it. It seems like me and about a good two handfulls of people are the only ones that look at the future of videogames from an honest non biased standpoint.

Does that even go together?

I tend to lean Sony when using my money, yet at the sametime I can look at things from a nonbiased perpective. I will probably never buy a Nintendo or Xbox product as long as Sony is in the picture, but that doesn't stop me from giving the others credit. For example...

1. Xbox has the best online expirence this generation.

2. Xbox has the best graphics this generation.

3. Xbox has the best FPS games on any console in history.

4. Nintendo has the best games for kids under 10 years of age.

5. Nintendo is the obvious leader in the handheld market and probably will be for a few years.

I don't have a problem saying great things about products that I will never buy. So yes I would say I'm unbiased when it comes to talking about videogames.
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GwymWeepa · 23-May-2005, 19:28

If true, Jade Empire would look amazing on ps3 tech.

Mordecaii · 23-May-2005, 19:32

You have to admit, what mckmas8808 said is a lot more unbiased than some people on this forum... Besides, since when has pulling for one company over another been bad as long as you draw a line? I prefer the color blue but that doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden going to discriminate against all other colors...

eDoshin · 23-May-2005, 19:35

I never KOTOR or JE much thought, but if the rumors were to be true, then I think it says something about where the next gen is headed when devs traditionally associated with other consoles are moving onto the PS3 platform all on their own (assuming they were not enticed by a wad of cash).

Acert93 · 23-May-2005, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Mordecaii

You have to admit, what mckmas8808 said is a lot more unbiased than some people on this forum... Besides, since when has pulling for one company over another been bad as long as you draw a line? I prefer the color blue but that doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden going to discriminate against all other colors...

Do a post history. Actually, I find it useful if you do a post history in many people. I have no problem with people liking a company, or even preferring their product. It is the approach taken.

The problem in general with console forums is this:

Person #1: Always praises system 'A' and only posts negatives about system 'B'

Person #2: Always praises system 'B' and only posts negatives about system 'A'

Now Person #1 and Person #2 may think the other system have merits, but if their posts are relegated to almost EXCLUSIVELY to praising their favorite system and they only both to post about the other system when there is something negative to say, that is biased, or at least presenting a facade of biasesness.

Rarely will you see certain posters post in a thread where their favorite console maker has done something wrong. Even if you think they are wrong, if you only reserve praise for them in your posts and only reserve contempt for the competition, that is bias.

That is why my former sig read:

Enjoying a product does not require hating said product's competition.

Mordecaii · 23-May-2005, 19:54

Oh, I do completely agree with you Acert, just saying that mckmas's particular comment in that post was farther than a lot of people will go. I've already figured out a lot about quite a few people in this forum, and trust me I take into account their previous posts when it comes to their current posts.

Dr Evil · 23-May-2005, 20:04

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Oh, I do completely agree with you Acert, just saying that mckmas's particular comment in that post was farther than a lot of people will go.

Agreed somewhat. There is diffenrent kinds of bias, I think the one mckmas8808 portrays is quite innocent, he just get's very excited about Sony, considering that a new model is coming out, that is somewhat understandable, sometimes it annoys me, but maybe it's not that bad, and maybe I shouldn't get annoyed by it, I think overall he seems to be quite nice person, just get's excited little too easy

. I think I might have been little too hard on him...

.

Acert93 · 23-May-2005, 20:11

Hey, if you guys are gonna hug and stuff please do it in the "Religion, Politics & Socioeconomic Climate" forum :P

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23-May-2005, 17:25	#2
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Mordecaii Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 297	Are they just basing the fact that they'll be making a PS3 game on the fact that they were there, or was something said? If it was based purely on them being at the press conference, then as was stated previously it would in no way mean they were making a PS3 game.

23-May-2005, 17:33	#4
Shinjisan Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 76	There was a rumor about Kotor 3 exclusively for PS3 just before E3 started. Honestly after Epic has praised the PS3 hardware and seems to prefer it over Xbox 360 and Factor 5 is developing only on PS3, I wouldn't be surprised if the Bioware rumor is true. Also EGM was talking about a few developers that decided to shift to PS3 because of its power.

23-May-2005, 17:43	#5
Dr Evil Anas platyrhynchos Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 4,359	mckmas8808 How about putting a title like that when there are actual proof that this is the case and not just reacting to every bar rumour you hear.

23-May-2005, 18:09	#9
Mordecaii Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 297	Just looking at the original post, the last line says "Details on what the game will focus on are not being discussed at the moment." Obviously this is speculation but that seems to me like it's pretty concrete there is a game and they're simply not divulging any details... So I don't see the problem with the title since the article at least believes that Biowars is working on the PS3. If anything, the article is wrong and mckmas8808 just posted an article with bad information but that isn't necessarily his fault. I'm surprised that some people can't get past childish insults aimed at others on the boards.

23-May-2005, 18:29	#12
Mordecaii Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 297	Well if we want to get technical, there isn't such a thing as an unbiased person... some just learn to have more of an open mind than others.

23-May-2005, 19:08	#17
eDoshin Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 142	I really don't know why anyone should be jumping to conclusions just because someone shows up at a news conference. Jobs was spotted, and suddenly we had this iTunes rumors going around. Not to say none of it will pan out, but that's no basis to form a conclusion. I think it would be fair to speculate that JE or KOTOR may show up on PS3, but don't make it look like fact. BTW .. just because a company like Bioware or Bungie have been xbox console exclusive, doesn't mean the people working there cannot appreciate PS2 games .. and vice-versa for Insomniac or whatever. Why wouldn't they poke their heads in to see what's up?

23-May-2005, 19:28	#19
GwymWeepa Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 658	If true, Jade Empire would look amazing on ps3 tech.

23-May-2005, 19:32	#20
Mordecaii Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 297	You have to admit, what mckmas8808 said is a lot more unbiased than some people on this forum... Besides, since when has pulling for one company over another been bad as long as you draw a line? I prefer the color blue but that doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden going to discriminate against all other colors...

23-May-2005, 19:35	#21
eDoshin Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 142	I never KOTOR or JE much thought, but if the rumors were to be true, then I think it says something about where the next gen is headed when devs traditionally associated with other consoles are moving onto the PS3 platform all on their own (assuming they were not enticed by a wad of cash).

23-May-2005, 19:54	#23
Mordecaii Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 297	Oh, I do completely agree with you Acert, just saying that mckmas's particular comment in that post was farther than a lot of people will go. I've already figured out a lot about quite a few people in this forum, and trust me I take into account their previous posts when it comes to their current posts.

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