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Tahir2 · 16-Apr-2005, 10:17

This motherboard chipset design from ATI has an integrated X300 onboard which is based on the 9600 GPU.

Does this integrated GPU have explicit support for HDTV resolutions like 1280*720P/768P and 1920*1080i?

kyleb · 16-Apr-2005, 17:32

Why wouldn't it?

ANova · 16-Apr-2005, 21:22

The X300 is a PCIE 9200 part, not 9600, that's the X600.

Yes, it supports resolutions up to 2048x2048.

Dave Baumann · 16-Apr-2005, 21:24

9200 is R200, DX8.1 based. RS400/480 are derived from X300/9600 in that they use the same DX9 architecture, but have half the pipelines.

ANova · 16-Apr-2005, 21:33

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Originally Posted by DaveBaumann

9200 is R200, DX8.1 based. RS400/480 are derived from X300/9600 in that they use the same DX9 architecture, but have half the pipelines.

So the X300 is a DX9 part with 2 or 4 pipelines? Isn't performance comparable to the 9200?

Zaphod · 16-Apr-2005, 22:17

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Originally Posted by ANova

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveBaumann

9200 is R200, DX8.1 based. RS400/480 are derived from X300/9600 in that they use the same DX9 architecture, but have half the pipelines.

So the X300 is a DX9 part with 2 or 4 pipelines? Isn't performance comparable to the 9200?

It (X300) is basically a die-shrunk, PCI Express, Radeon 9600. Most often (as far as I have seen) found with a 64bit bus and low clocks, so not exactly a speed demon. Nothing wrong with it, though. At the same clock a 128bit X300 shouldn't perform any worse than a X600. What Dave is saying is that the RS400/480 are more like half a X300.

Pete · 17-Apr-2005, 02:46

X300 is a 110nm X600, which in turn is simply a PCIe 9600 (which is a 130nm low-k RV350/360). All have four pixel pipes and two vertex shaders. I'm pretty sure the X300 also has a 128-bit bus, but it's most often sold as a 64-bit X300SE.

IIRC, the RS480's graphics core is less than half of an X300/X600/9600, in that it has only two pipelines and no hardware vertex shaders (to save die size). I guess its memory bus is 64-bit, as I think that's the dual-channel system memory bus width.

As for HDTV support, it should be able to output any res under its cap, like most video cards. In the unlikely event ATI doesn't provide one of those HDTV resolutions, you can always add it by hand or with PowerStrip.

Tahir2 · 17-Apr-2005, 19:01

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In the unlikely event ATI doesn't provide one of those HDTV resolutions, you can always add it by hand or with PowerStrip.

Thanks for that, I just want to be sure before I start experimenting with a HTPC. Overscan becomes a problem as well when hooking up to HDTV type resolutions which is something the driver needs to take care of I assume.

Pete · 17-Apr-2005, 20:13

That sounds right, but I have no idea.

I'd shoot ATI an email about the res and overscan. It shouldn't take them too long to provide a definitive answer.

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kyleb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 4,164	Why wouldn't it?

16-Apr-2005, 21:22	#3
ANova Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,226	The X300 is a PCIE 9200 part, not 9600, that's the X600. Yes, it supports resolutions up to 2048x2048.

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Pete Moderate Nuisance Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,653	X300 is a 110nm X600, which in turn is simply a PCIe 9600 (which is a 130nm low-k RV350/360). All have four pixel pipes and two vertex shaders. I'm pretty sure the X300 also has a 128-bit bus, but it's most often sold as a 64-bit X300SE. IIRC, the RS480's graphics core is less than half of an X300/X600/9600, in that it has only two pipelines and no hardware vertex shaders (to save die size). I guess its memory bus is 64-bit, as I think that's the dual-channel system memory bus width. As for HDTV support, it should be able to output any res under its cap, like most video cards. In the unlikely event ATI doesn't provide one of those HDTV resolutions, you can always add it by hand or with PowerStrip.

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Pete Moderate Nuisance Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,653	That sounds right, but I have no idea. I'd shoot ATI an email about the res and overscan. It shouldn't take them too long to provide a definitive answer.

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