[Geo]

Originally Posted by Tahir

Are you trying to say DaveB has been promoted to doorman geo?

Uh, no. There would be different parts of anatomies involved in that relationship. Scruff of the neck, foots and rears and such.

[neliz]

Originally Posted by Tahir

Are you trying to say DaveB has been promoted to doorman geo?

After those pictures of Fuad making out with.. [blocked from memory] .. just about anything is possible..

Now I also know where he's getting his "juicy" details..

straight from the horses.. *MOUTH*

[Geo]

While I was kidding about some big confab at ATI recently, the front page of [H] makes me wonder if I should have been kidding. . .

[Karma Police]

Originally Posted by Hellbinder

No i mean June 6th 2005 as in 50 days from today.

The First Version of the Xbox will be released on that Day according to current inside retailer information. The console will be unveiled to the world on May 12th.

source?

[DegustatoR]

Originally Posted by Hellbinder

No i mean June 6th 2005 as in 50 days from today.

The First Version of the Xbox will be released on that Day according to current inside retailer information. The console will be unveiled to the world on May 12th.

...And with no games ready everybody will just use it for DVD playback?

[Karma Police]

Originally Posted by DegustatoR

...And with no games ready everybody will just use it for DVD playback?

[Pete]

Karma, he got a message. A message .. from Gad.

De, I was thinking the same thing, but if it's really backwards-compatible, they could get away with launching with just a handful of games. If it looks good, you could almost justify it as a sort of PStwo launch: a more svelte Xbox, but $300 and with mostly untapped potential.

[jvd]

Originally Posted by ninelven

Just in time for my birthday... I was kinda thinking about going w/ a ps3 though... whole square-enix thing. Ahh well... back on topic.

the next final fantsy may not be on a sony platform

Also the next online final fantsy may not just be on the next sony platform

[Wunderchu]

Originally Posted by Hellbinder

No i mean June 6th 2005 as in 50 days from today.

The First Version of the Xbox will be released on that Day according to current inside retailer information. The console will be unveiled to the world on May 12th.

I think the info. you got may have gotten mixed up a bit ......

from all the rumours / hints / speculation that I have read on various sites, the June date you mention, may indeed be the date that the final Xbox 360 hardware is done..... but it won't be arriving on store shelves until October or November


according to my info. gathered from various rumours / hints / speculation on various sites:

- the Xbox dev. kits that were in the hands of developers since months ago, are alpha 2 dev. kits with dual Power Mac G5 CPUs and a Radeon X800 Pro GPU

- in May (probably in time for E³) developers will get beta dev. kits with an early revision R500 [similar to how ID had access to early R300 hardware, which they used to demo Doom 3 in E³ 2002], as well as beta versions of most of the other hardware actually going into Xbox 360...
[BTW the actual codename of the GPU according to an ATI employee is "Xenos" (according to this person, they have never referred to the Xbox 360 GPU as "R500", at least internally)]

- any last minute tweaks/adjustments to the hardware will basically have to be made in May/June because sometime around June, perhaps the date you mention Hellbinder, the hardware will be finalized , [retailers may get empty shells of the final Xbox 360 to display/advertise/hype up perhaps behind glass panels in their stores, too]

- soon after that point, the final dev kits containing final hardware will be produced, and sent to developers... and soon after this time, MS will start ramping up production for the launch

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Pete

Karma, he got a message. A message .. from Gad.

De, I was thinking the same thing, but if it's really backwards-compatible, they could get away with launching with just a handful of games. If it looks good, you could almost justify it as a sort of PStwo launch: a more svelte Xbox, but $300 and with mostly untapped potential.

Well, if they still feel like they are getting raped by NV that could be a factor too in retiring v1 as soon as possible.

But wasn't there supposed to be a second developers beta around then?

By golly that would put a whole different spin on Orton's 4th quarter (June-Aug) revenue predictions. . .

[ninelven]

Originally Posted by jvd

the next final fantsy may not be on a sony platform
Also the next online final fantsy may not just be on the next sony platform

Who said anything about final fantasy? Though I'm a fan of both, DQ is what I'm really after. Both series have a history of exclusivity as well as being the biggest games in Japan = sales. Unless Xbox 360 pulls a 180 over there, there isn't any chance of an exclusive deal on the 360 except an mmorpg perhaps, and I try to stay away from those. I suppose they could move to nintendo, but I doubt it. Playstation offers the most lucrative market in Japan and abroad, and unless the PS3 hardware bombs horribly I doubt that will change much especially for those two series. But it doesn't really matter what I think because that won't change reality. All I was saying is that my decision to buy a 360 would likely be at odds with the chance to play FF and DQ. Anyway, I'm fairly certain whatever console I purchase for whatever reason is of little consequence.

[neliz]

Originally Posted by jvd

the next final fantsy may not be on a sony platform

Also the next online final fantsy may not just be on the next sony platform

Uhm, that's what your mind makes of it.
Square hasn't signed anything with M$ yet and the producer stuff you think about is just a new start-up studio which uses a LOT of ex-square staff that freelance nowadays.

don't expect a final fantasy game on the x36...

[CJ]

Originally Posted by Wunderchu

according to my info. gathered from various rumours / hints / speculation on various sites:

- the Xbox dev. kits that were in the hands of developers since months ago, are alpha 2 dev. kits with dual Power Mac G5s as CPUs and a Radeon X800 Pro as GPU

- in May (probably in time for E³) developers will get beta dev. kits with an early revision R500

Urhm, no... not according to Gamespy.

Xenon's GPU is a generation beyond the ATI X800. Its clock speed is 500 MHz and it supports Shader 3.0. Developers are currently working with an alpha 2 GPU. Beta GPU units are expected by May and the final GPU is slated for a summer release. The final GPU will be more powerful than anything on the market today; in game terms, it would handle a game like Half-Life 2 with ease.

http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox/microso.../594331p1.html

So the devs already have an alpha version of R500 and May will see the beta version of R500 if Gamespy is to be believed who in this case do sound credible IMO.

[Dave Baumann]

Personally I would go along with Wunderchu's assessment.

[jvd]

from all the rumours / hints / speculation that I have read on various sites, the June date you mention, may indeed be the date that the final Xbox 360 hardware is done..... but it won't be arriving on store shelves until October or November

I would go with a sept 22nd launch my friend

[DegustatoR]

Originally Posted by jvd

I would go with a sept 22nd launch my friend

What's so special about sept 22nd?

[jvd]

whats not special about sept 22nd ?

[Tim Murray]

Originally Posted by jvd

whats not special about sept 22nd ?

must be your birthday. so, this means that both ATI and NVIDIA will go out of business on Sept. 21, and then you'll only be able to buy Volari cards.

[jvd]

na my birthday is sept 6th which is not a good day , for almost all of my life that was the first day of school


no i justh ave a feeling its the 22nd that they are releasing it .

[Hellbinder]

Eh..

All i know is that Gamestop/Eb's internal system still has it listed as June 6th.

It sounds absurd but its still in there as such... Bottom line is its pretty close to launching one way or the other.

[neliz]

Originally Posted by Hellbinder

Eh..

All i know is that Gamestop/Eb's internal system still has it listed as June 6th.

It sounds absurd but its still in there as such... Bottom line is its pretty close to launching one way or the other.

Maybe they'll anounce a September 13th release date and bundle it with Half Life2!

That's why Valve is waiting with releasing HL2 on the xbox, they just ported it to a mac platform.
And Ati's 6 million dollars will once again be wise spent...

Can you imagine Gabe holding one of those tiny Japanese xbox controllers and saying "it's comming out september 13th people, get your HDR crowbars ready!"

[Joe DeFuria]

Originally Posted by Hellbinder

Eh..

All i know is that Gamestop/Eb's internal system still has it listed as June 6th.

Possibly when they'll start taking pre-orders.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Joe DeFuria

Possibly when they'll start taking pre-orders.

Keerist, there you go being practical again. Doorman, who let the party pooper in?

[Hellbinder]

A crazy as it sounds i have been hearing (from people in the know) June 6th for the first version to hit the street for over 6 months now.

Of course that is likely not going to happen i guess. But that date was confirmed to me as close as 2 weeks ago.

It does seem highly unlikely now that it is only 50 days away. I do think its going to be a lot closer than you guys are thinking.

[neliz]

Originally Posted by Hellbinder

It does seem highly unlikely now that it is only 50 days away. I do think its going to be a lot closer than you guys are thinking.

Not really close, that thing is not comming into my house!

it being M$ and all, and I stopped paying for M$ products when my dad bought me a 286 with dos 5.11...