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Teasy · 10-Sep-2002, 18:01

I just got my Gainward Geforce 4 TI4200, so far everything is ok appart from one problem. When I start GTA3 the monitor turns itself off. This looks like a refresh rate problem, but I've used a few different tools to try to set the refresh rate for the res GTA3 was using when I last started it (1024x768) to 60hz, but the monitor still turns itself off. Also 3dmark2000 and 3dmark2001 as well as Virtua Tennis (the only other games I have on the PC right now) have no problems at all and run fine..

Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be?

EDIT: Just tried FIFA 2002 and it also works fine still all the other games I've tried that work are D3D, is GTA3 D3D or OpenGL?

Chalnoth · 10-Sep-2002, 18:19

What drivers are you currently using? These are the latest official (non-beta) drivers:

http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=winxp-2k_30.82

The 40.41 drivers are currently quite buggy.

L233 · 10-Sep-2002, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Teasy

Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be?

Check the Readme.txt, IIRC there is a link to some Microsoft patch. Maybe it helps.

Teasy · 10-Sep-2002, 18:30

Yeah I'm already using the official 30.38 drivers. Sorry I should have mentioned my current drivers straight away.

Teasy · 10-Sep-2002, 18:35

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Check the Readme.txt, IIRC there is a link to some Microsoft patch. Maybe it helps.

AFAIR that patch was for corrupt menu's, I installed it when I first installed the game.

Ichneumon · 10-Sep-2002, 18:43

Are you running WindowsXP?

check what your refresh is set to in 640x480 as thats what the game defaults to. For some reason XP doesn't handle 640x480 very well, at least not for my system.

If you can't arse with it any other way, you can do the force refresh in DxDiag to make sure that its what you want in 640x480 for the games. You can turn that back off after you get GTA3 up and running in a different default res.

Riptides · 10-Sep-2002, 18:46

Sounds more like a GTA3 problem than a vid card problem. And that game has got its fair share of them unfortunately.
Go check the PC Forums at GTA3 Forums

(edit: OH BTW GTA3 is a D3D game)

Joe DeFuria · 10-Sep-2002, 18:50

Slightly off topic...

Teasy, why didn't you buy a PowerVR Series 4 based card instead?

*Ahem*

Teasy · 10-Sep-2002, 18:55

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Are you running WindowsXP?

Yep

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check what your refresh is set to in 640x480 as thats what the game defaults to

I think its still at 1024x768x32 like it was when I played it with the 8500LE before I uninstalled it. But I did use NVTweak to force all resolutions to 60hz, and I'm still having the problem, so far only with GTA3.

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If you can't arse with it any other way, you can do the force refresh in DxDiag to make sure that its what you want in 640x480 for the games

How can I do that in DxDiag?

ripvanwinkle, I'll check out the forum.

Joe DeFuria · 10-Sep-2002, 18:57

Have you downloaded Service Pack 1 for XP? It overhauls the refresh rate system for D3D....

Teasy · 10-Sep-2002, 19:01

Joe, I don't need to buy one, I have one in my other PC already

Oh and before you start thinking I've now gone over to the dark side you should realise that all along I've owned cards from most of the 3d companies. 3 3DFX cards, 4 Nvidia cards, 4 ATI cards, 2 PowerVR cards and 1 S3. I like to try out different cards for a few months and then sell them. Rest assured when the next PowerVR card arrives I won't be keeping this Geforce 4

Joe DeFuria · 10-Sep-2002, 19:08

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Oh and before you start thinking I've now gone over to the dark side...

Actually I was thinking no such thing. You don't have to justify your purchasing habits to me.

I was only referring to the looming Sept 30 "deadline" for our little bet.

Tahir2 · 10-Sep-2002, 19:11

thats blows major goats

Teasy · 10-Sep-2002, 19:12

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Have you downloaded Service Pack 1 for XP? It overhauls the refresh rate system for D3D....

I've downloaded all the WinXP web updates, is that the same or would I get something from the service pack 1 that I wouldn't get from the normal web updates?

Teasy · 10-Sep-2002, 19:21

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Actually I was thinking no such thing. You don't have to justify your purchasing habits to me.

Justify my purchasing habbits? I bellieve you mean describe my purchasing habbits, there was no justifying happening there. But of course you can't resist a pop can you. Do this thread a favour Joe, play nice or leave.

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I was only referring to the looming Sept 30 "deadline" for our little bet.

There is no looming date, September was the "bet" and it has passed, I also carried out the bet as I already said

If your not happy with that then too bad :P

Please, from now on, try to keep this thread on topic.

Dave Glue · 10-Sep-2002, 19:36

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Originally Posted by Teasy

Quote:

Have you downloaded Service Pack 1 for XP? It overhauls the refresh rate system for D3D....

I've downloaded all the WinXP web updates, is that the same or would I get something from the service pack 1 that I wouldn't get from the normal web updates?

Yes. SP1 has updates above and beyond that which were released on Windows Update. Get it:
http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsXP/p...p1/default.asp

10-Sep-2002, 18:01	#1
Teasy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Newcastle Posts: 4,568	Little problem with my new TI4200 I just got my Gainward Geforce 4 TI4200, so far everything is ok appart from one problem. When I start GTA3 the monitor turns itself off. This looks like a refresh rate problem, but I've used a few different tools to try to set the refresh rate for the res GTA3 was using when I last started it (1024x768) to 60hz, but the monitor still turns itself off. Also 3dmark2000 and 3dmark2001 as well as Virtua Tennis (the only other games I have on the PC right now) have no problems at all and run fine.. Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be? EDIT: Just tried FIFA 2002 and it also works fine still all the other games I've tried that work are D3D, is GTA3 D3D or OpenGL?

10-Sep-2002, 18:43	#6
Ichneumon Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 414	Are you running WindowsXP? check what your refresh is set to in 640x480 as thats what the game defaults to. For some reason XP doesn't handle 640x480 very well, at least not for my system. If you can't arse with it any other way, you can do the force refresh in DxDiag to make sure that its what you want in 640x480 for the games. You can turn that back off after you get GTA3 up and running in a different default res. __________________ "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. " - Sir Winston Churchill

10-Sep-2002, 19:11	#13
Tahir2 Itchy Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: United Queendom Posts: 2,858	thats blows major goats __________________ Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so - Douglas Adams

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10-Sep-2002, 18:19	#2
Chalnoth Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,678	What drivers are you currently using? These are the latest official (non-beta) drivers: http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=winxp-2k_30.82 The 40.41 drivers are currently quite buggy.

10-Sep-2002, 18:30	#4
Teasy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Newcastle Posts: 4,568	Yeah I'm already using the official 30.38 drivers. Sorry I should have mentioned my current drivers straight away.

10-Sep-2002, 18:46	#7
Riptides Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Another Time Posts: 120	Sounds more like a GTA3 problem than a vid card problem. And that game has got its fair share of them unfortunately. Go check the PC Forums at GTA3 Forums (edit: OH BTW GTA3 is a D3D game)

10-Sep-2002, 18:50	#8
Joe DeFuria Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,951	Slightly off topic... Teasy, why didn't you buy a PowerVR Series 4 based card instead? Ahem

10-Sep-2002, 18:57	#10
Joe DeFuria Regular Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,951	Have you downloaded Service Pack 1 for XP? It overhauls the refresh rate system for D3D....

10-Sep-2002, 19:01	#11
Teasy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Newcastle Posts: 4,568	Joe, I don't need to buy one, I have one in my other PC already Oh and before you start thinking I've now gone over to the dark side you should realise that all along I've owned cards from most of the 3d companies. 3 3DFX cards, 4 Nvidia cards, 4 ATI cards, 2 PowerVR cards and 1 S3. I like to try out different cards for a few months and then sell them. Rest assured when the next PowerVR card arrives I won't be keeping this Geforce 4

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