[gokickrocks]

http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=4010'

[Guden Oden]

Yeah, so? They'll be solved through warranty returns.

[london-boy]

I think it's normal that a brand spanking Sony product might have flaws for some units the first few weeks. It's not like all PSPs are faulty...

But this made me laugh...

negativeions - 12.14.2004 at 10:04:58 PM
Sony makes me sick. Every single product they ever made is a flakey overpriced piece of garbage. Have they ever heard of durability? Why can't they improve their manufacturing process! For God's sakes, WHY!? You are a disgrace to your god damn country you stupid Japanese bastards.

megatron1179 - 12.14.2004 at 09:27:46 AM
They probably tried to build it to break down after a year and fucked up doing that.

legendarysword - 12.13.2004 at 10:24:38 PM
I feel sorry for those suckers that spent $500+ for theirs (not really).

counterattack - 12.13.2004 at 07:00:55 PM
I was all psyched about the PSP coming out, and now it seems as though it's mroe trouble than it's worth.

NICE SITE!!!

[one]

Well it reflects how big the interest of people about PSP is Dead pixels and cartridge slipping off are more often reported for NDS too.

[PC-Engine]

Originally Posted by one

Well it reflects how big the interest of people about PSP is Dead pixels and cartridge slipping off are more often reported for NDS too.

cartridge slipping off.....riiiiight.

[Evil_Cloud]

Originally Posted by one

Well it reflects how big the interest of people about PSP is Dead pixels and cartridge slipping off are more often reported for NDS too.

So are the reports of people pouring water on their devices.

A cartridge based medium will always be more robust than an optical based medium, with spinning parts.

[rabidrabbit]

Would it not be harmful to the PSP to twist it in a manner that the UMD pops out... would such forceful twisting be harmful to any device :? Why would someone twist the PSP? Because it is a lenghty shape it tempts someone to twist it..... I have no urge to twist long objects, I have the urge to pull and rub them :?

Air bubbls in the screen, did someone forget to peel off the protective plastic sheet (if PSP has one when took out of box)

[london-boy]

Originally Posted by rabidrabbit

Would it not be harmful to the PSP to twist it in a manner that the UMD pops out... would such forceful twisting be harmful to any device :? Why would someone twist the PSP? Because it is a lenghty shape it tempts someone to twist it..... I have no urge to twist long objects, I have the urge to pull and rub them :?

Air bubbls in the screen, did someone forget to peel off the protective plastic sheet (if PSP has one when took out of box)

That was my questiong.. How would you twist a PSP??? It's quite hard and it's not easy to twist hard things unless you forcefully try to.

[PC-Engine]

Actually that could be a problem during intense sessions considering it's basically just a controller with a screen. I don't know how much you have to twist it, but if it's not much then it's definitely not good especially if it's in your pocket when you sit down assuming it's pocketable.

[london-boy]

Originally Posted by PC-Engine

Actually that could be a problem during intense sessions considering it's basically just a controller with a screen. I don't know how much you have to twist it, but if it's not much then it's definitely not good especially if it's in your pocket when you sit down assuming it's pocketable.

I have used controllers since they were bigger than my hands, and i NEVER EVER have abused them as much as twisting them. Not the NES ones, Genesis, PS1, PS2... So this kinda comes as a surprise to me since PSP should actually be much heavier and resistant than those plastic flimsy things...

[rabidrabbit]

The PSP. or DS really are not meant to be carried in your trouser pockets. I don't think it would even come to most (sane) peoples minds to put a device of their sizes in such a tight place.
How many people even carry their cell-phones in their trousers back or front pockets, and they are much smaller than PSP r DS
There are at least two reasons such devices are not pocketable:
1. If you put it in your back pocket, it will fall off there when you walk.
2. If you put it in your front pocket, you'll feel like you're trying to walk with a massive hard-on inside your thight jeans.

[PC-Engine]

Originally Posted by rabidrabbit

The PSP. or DS really are not meant to be carried in your trouser pockets. I don't think it would even come to most (sane) peoples minds to put a device of their sizes in such a tight place.
How many people even carry their cell-phones in their trousers back or front pockets, and they are much smaller than PSP r DS
There are at least two reasons such devices are not pocketable:
1. If you put it in your back pocket, it will fall off there when you walk.
2. If you put it in your front pocket, you'll feel like you're trying to walk with a massive hard-on inside your thight jeans.

Most people don't carry their cellphones in their pocket because when they receive a call while driving or sitting down, it very difficult to pull it out and by the time you do eventually pull it out your VM kicks in.

That's why MEN carry them on their belts while women usually keep it in their purse. I wouldn't carry a huge PSP on my belt becaue 1. You'd look like a dork. 2. You'd look like a dork that is showing off.

[london-boy]

Originally Posted by rabidrabbit

The PSP. or DS really are not meant to be carried in your trouser pockets. I don't think it would even come to most (sane) peoples minds to put a device of their sizes in such a tight place.
How many people even carry their cell-phones in their trousers back or front pockets, and they are much smaller than PSP r DS
There are at least two reasons such devices are not pocketable:
1. If you put it in your back pocket, it will fall off there when you walk.
.

I keep my T610 in my front pocket at all times, so that when it vibrates i really know it does. It's small enough, but i would never put a PSP in my pocket. First of all because a PSP will probably never come to my possession, second of all, if it ever did, i wouldn't take it out of my house. ever. Which kinda kills the whole purpose i guess.

2. If you put it in your front pocket, you'll feel like you're trying to walk with a massive hard-on inside your thight jeans

Some people are used to it.

[rabidrabbit]

Well you're a perv with perv pleasures, so you don't count as "most people"

[PC-Engine]

Some people are used to it.

it very difficult to pull it out

[gokickrocks]

i keep my cell phone in my pocket, but then again its in a pocket made for cell phones

[PC-Engine]

That's a picture showing why the square button has problems ie it doesn't correctly align with the carbon contact patch, that's pretty poor design in my book.

[london-boy]

Nothing a very simple revision won't fix, but it is stragen it was never picked up before release.
I'm sure they had hundreds of Sony boys playing on prototype PSPs for hours.
Guess it explains why it only happens to a few units, not all of them.

[PC-Engine]

The way I understand it is that this is a PCB issue, so unless the first 200K used different PCB revisions, this problem may affect all 200K units.

[rabidrabbit]

No, it really doesn't seem he's twisting the PSP at all :?

But I do disagree about the Sony launch product quality.
My PS2 was bought at european launch, and it has had zero problems, even the original DualShock2 lasted until late last year whan the O button started to stick (I did fix that by opening it and cleaning the button contact from plastic dust that had collected there, but still I bought a new controller)

[london-boy]

Originally Posted by rabidrabbit

No, it really doesn't seem he's twisting the PSP at all :?

But I do disagree about the Sony launch product quality.
My PS2 was bought at european launch, and it has had zero problems, even the original DualShock2 lasted until late last year whan the O button started to stick (I did fix that by opening it and cleaning the button contact from plastic dust that had collected there, but still I bought a new controller)

Dust?
.......... Dust doesn't get sticky........... Errrrrrr............

[rabidrabbit]

well, not sticky as the button stuck at the "on" position, but "sticky" in that it didn't always contact, so it kinda stuck on "off" position... should that have been "stucky"?

To this day I've restrained from using the DS as a sex toy, though it did cross my mind when played "REZ" and read abut some women enjoying the Trance Vibrator.

[Mulciber]

Originally Posted by PC-Engine

Most people don't carry their cellphones in their pocket because when they receive a call while driving or sitting down, it very difficult to pull it out and by the time you do eventually pull it out your VM kicks in.

That's why MEN carry them on their belts while women usually keep it in their purse. I wouldn't carry a huge PSP on my belt becaue 1. You'd look like a dork. 2. You'd look like a dork that is showing off.

hah, yea, because its so easy to find something in a womans purse. i carry my phone in my pocket, but thats because its about 1/4 the size of a psp or a nds.

[Kalin]

Originally Posted by rabidrabbit

The PSP. or DS really are not meant to be carried in your trouser pockets. I don't think it would even come to most (sane) peoples minds to put a device of their sizes in such a tight place.
How many people even carry their cell-phones in their trousers back or front pockets, and they are much smaller than PSP r DS
There are at least two reasons such devices are not pocketable:
1. If you put it in your back pocket, it will fall off there when you walk.
2. If you put it in your front pocket, you'll feel like you're trying to walk with a massive hard-on inside your thight jeans.

I agree you're not supposed to carry such a portable in your trouser pockets, as you wouldn't carry your Walkman or PDA, but the PSP and DS should definitely be designed for easy carrying without a backpack. E.g. in your jacket pocket. A non-pocketable PSP is a dead PSP, end of story, it's a light-weight home console with batteries and screen - far from Sony's PR and vision of a 21st century Walkman. This means it has to be prepared for exposure to significant twisting and vibrations - in a car, while riding your bicycle, jogging etc.

Originally Posted by LB

Nothing a very simple revision won't fix

This is a very poor excuse. It's called a low-quality product.

That said I have to question the validity of any early reports... We have to wait a little before making any conclusions on PSP quality, and I doubt it's a significant number of the units having any problems. Sony have the know-how to make a portable, with an exceptional quality.

[rabidrabbit]

You didn't jog or cycle with the 1st gen Walkmans, as they would have skipped a lot if you did
..or was it DiscMans :?